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re: How long will it take for libs to claim Cliven Bundy is a RW racist ?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:41 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:41 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Bundy has responded:
“That’s exactly what I said. I said I’m wondering if they’re better off under government subsidy, and their young women are having the abortions and their young men are in jail, and their older women and their children are standing, sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do, you know, I’m wondering: Are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves, and they was able to have their family structure together, and the chickens and garden, and the people had something to do? And so, in my mind I’m wondering, are they better off being slaves, in that sense, or better off being slaves to the United States government, in the sense of the subsidies. I’m wondering. That’s what. And the statement was right. I am wondering.”
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“That’s exactly what I said. I said I’m wondering if they’re better off under government subsidy, and their young women are having the abortions and their young men are in jail, and their older women and their children are standing, sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do, you know, I’m wondering: Are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves, and they was able to have their family structure together, and the chickens and garden, and the people had something to do? And so, in my mind I’m wondering, are they better off being slaves, in that sense, or better off being slaves to the United States government, in the sense of the subsidies. I’m wondering. That’s what. And the statement was right. I am wondering.”
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:43 pm to brodeo
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This is a clear "forest for the trees" moment, where people are so focused on the racism that they miss the larger point that is at least worthy of some discussion.
Yeah, that's what happens with racist language. It's a bed shitter.
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It is a popular opinion on this board that the welfare state uses entitlement programs unintentionally to trap populations in a self-perpetuating cycle of poverty. Between the benefits one can receive via welfare, housing assistance, food stamps, tax credits, disabilities insurance, unemployment insurance, ect life being poor is not easy, but it's relatively comfortable. However, any attempts to better one's situation via getting a job and working hard to get promoted means that those benefits are cut off nearly completely. The safety net becomes a hammock as many citizens can make much more money receiving these benefits than they could get by working full time jobs (for which they lack the skills). It's simply easier to not work, they're rewarded and subsidized for the behaviors that keep them impoverished so they continue to behave in that fashion.
Right. Those comments would be welcome in a discussion by most reasonable people.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:43 pm to CFBFAN1121
I would argue that anyone named "Cliven" is racist. Prove me wrong.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:45 pm to a want
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Yeah, that's what happens with racist language. It's a bed shitter.
Unless you're running for president and your preacher is a racist
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:56 pm to brodeo
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It is a popular opinion on this board that the welfare state uses entitlement programs unintentionally to trap populations in a self-perpetuating cycle of poverty.
I don't think it's unintentional at all. This is what Democrats want. They institute welfare programs to buy votes. They don't care that these programs don't help bring people out of poverty as long as the people who benefit are still voting for them.
This is also the reason why Dems are so quick to label Bundy a racist for these comments. His comments make sense and they don't want these sensible opinions to become common opinions.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:06 pm to a want
quote:
How can it be insensitive, poorly worded, yet caring at the same time.
Seriously?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:19 pm to imjustafatkid
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His comments make sense and they don't want these sensible opinions to become common opinions.
You sir, are a moron.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:57 pm to PuntBamaPunt
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He said he would continue holding a daily news conference; on Saturday, it drew one reporter and one photographer, so Mr. Bundy used the time to officiate at what was in effect a town meeting with supporters, discussing, in a long, loping discourse, the prevalence of abortion, the abuses of welfare and his views on race.
So he waited until there were only supporters and one reporter and cameraman around to make this statement? I just find this odd.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:27 pm to CFBFAN1121
Cliven Bundy
Clayton Bigsby
Eerily similar?
Clayton Bigsby
Eerily similar?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:31 pm to BayouBlitz
quote:
You sir, are a moron.
Thanks for playing.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:44 pm to constant cough
Why is this idiot commenting on race anyway? And why would anyone GAF? It's saddening to see the dumbasses that are turned into folk heroes these days. Has Zimmerman weighed in on the BLM fiasco yet?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:46 pm to JuiceTerry
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It's saddening to see the dumbasses that are turned into folk heroes these days.
None of us are perfect and we shouldn't expect people to be.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:49 pm to imjustafatkid
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This is also the reason why Dems are so quick to label Bundy a racist for these comments.
<--- not a dem. You don't talk about negroes picking cotton if you're not racist.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:53 pm to TK421
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You don't talk about negroes picking cotton if you're not racist.
Any other code words we should restrict people from saying by labeling them a racist:
cotton
n-ger
Chicago
monkey
ape
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:55 pm to C
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Any other code words we should restrict people from saying by labeling them a racist:
cotton
n-ger
Chicago
monkey
ape
With the exception of Chicago, I'm pretty sure most sane people can agree that the rest are racist when referring to black people.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:58 pm to TK421
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:14 pm to constant cough
Just read this story on another site. Isn't this rancher receiving all kinds of gov't subsidies along with grazing his cattle for free on federal land.
Wow.
Wow.
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