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How is Trump an adversary to the "deep state".

Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:43 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118862 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:43 pm
I keep hearing the "deep state" is fighting back.

What is the "deep state" trying to preserve or fight for? What is Trump trying to take from them?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53471 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:46 pm to
Well, it's a good point because he got in line like a good neocon with Syria and seems to be in bed with Goldman Sachs types like all of our other politicians. So, I'm not sure what establishment positions he is even fighting now, other than maybe on immigration.
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
7886 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

I keep hearing the "deep state" is fighting back.

What is the "deep state" trying to preserve or fight for? What is Trump trying to take from them?


Notice how there is literally no difference between Hillary and Jeb? That's the election they wanted because its a bullshite choice. Get us arguing over gay marriage and abortion while they rob the country blind.

Then Trump comes along and he isn't onboard at all. Doesn't want to escalate in Syria, thinks we can actually get along with Russia and solve some common issues, doesn't believe in open borders. Not to mention his past statements shitting all over the intelligence community.

Trump is not like them and represents a threat to their interests, both policy and financially.

It's not hard to figure out they are on the same team when its Republicans like John McCain who are actually leading the charge with this Russia narrative. Hell he is the one that disseminated the dossier in the first place.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

What is the "deep state" trying to preserve or fight for?


Seriously?

Control. Control and $$$$$.

Do you understand how the Clintons became incredibly wealthy?

Do you understand how George Soros makes his $ and why he gives to the organizations he gives to?

Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36096 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:48 pm to
The biggest adversary to the Deep State in Washington is the man beside Trump in your avatar.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118862 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:52 pm to
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Well, it's a good point because he got in line like a good neocon with Syria


He defiantly gave the appearance of "getting in line". But he called the Russians an hour before to vacate the Syrian airport and the bombing really did no harm.

Looking back is seems like his alternative objective was to placate the neocons. They are getting restless again.


quote:

I'm not sure what establishment positions he is even fighting now,


Trade. He killed the TPP and TTIP and wants to rework NAFTA. He is also threatening to remove the US from the Paris Climate Change Agreement.

So there's that.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22001 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:53 pm to
But he's reversed on almost everything that was anti Deep State.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118862 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

The biggest adversary to the Deep State in Washington is the man beside Trump in your avatar.


That's one of the reasons he's in my avatar.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51807 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:55 pm to
Dat swamp bruh.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118862 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

Do you understand how the Clintons became incredibly wealthy?


Mostly speeches, I guess.


quote:

Do you understand how George Soros makes his $ and why he gives to the organizations he gives to?


No. How doe George Soros make his money? I know he does fund groups like Antifa and BLM.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

What is the "deep state" trying to preserve or fight for? What is Trump trying to take from them?


The Deep State wants perpetual war and high Defense spending. They want power for its own sake.

They expected this year another big war in Syria like the one we did for no reason in Iraq. Clinton was chomping at the bit to deliver. So far Trump hasn't cooperated.

ETA: Oh, yeah. The Deep State/globalists wants as many unvetted, unwashed Syrians relocated to the United States as possible.

To the degree that the US ever was, or was seen as, a force for good in the world, the Deep State/Globalists want that gone.

This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118862 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:56 pm to
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But he's reversed on almost everything that was anti Deep State.


Yeah, my question is, what are those things?
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
7886 posts
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:57 pm to
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But he's reversed on almost everything that was anti Deep State.


Like what?

Syria? They want to send in troops to topple Assad. Like a serious amount of troops. That's not happening.

Immigration? Yet to be seen if we will get the wall but illegal immigration is way down and he is issuing executive orders to curb immigration from certain parts of the world.

TPP? It's gone.

Obamacare? We need to see what comes out of the Senate but the House bill was not impressive. Still waiting on this one.

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