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re: How Government ruins private industry to control land
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:54 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:54 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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I wonder what the government does with all the catfish shite in the river.
shhh! they are going to regulate once they get the cowfart regulations
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:54 pm to deltaland
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Did you know that the Moorhead bayou drains 15,000 acres of row crop and catfish pond farmland?
Unless you are a clever liar, your analyses make sense to the engineering part of me. I have yielded to your expertise/knowledge of this subject as I have none.
I do have lots of commons sense and a huge cynical attitude towards the way bureaucrats maintain their power. I can usually spot an inane argument. So far I am siding with you.
I am outta here as to substantive input. If I find something I think you are not covering wrt the Link, I may pop back in, but that thing is hard to follow. The one area Rex identified doesn't seem to support his assertion, especially with the additional detail you just provided.
I could only point out that the report itself did not actually say that AC was causing the pollution.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:55 pm to ChineseBandit58
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The one area Rex identified doesn't seem to support his assertion,
What assertion? I didn't make an assertion.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:59 pm to deltaland
This was posted in our paper 2/7/14. I assume they are the same outfit.
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Allens Inc, a Siloam Springs-based canned vegetable company in Chapter 11 bankruptcy, will be sold to Sager Creek Acquisition Corp. for $124.78 million if approved by a bankruptcy judge.
Sager Creek is owned by investment funds controlled or advised by Sankaty Advisors LLC and GB Credit Partners LLC.
The agreement was reached after an auction was held. A hearing to approve the bid is scheduled for Tuesday.
In late October, Allens filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Western District of Arkansas. Court filings show that Allens owes its primary lenders $114.36 million and its secondary lenders $65.6 million, and had between $100 million and $500 million in assets.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:02 pm to Rex
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What assertion? I didn't make an assertion.
your assertion:
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Page 21 says that the model showed that Allen Canning's effluent continued to violate discharge standards.
No - it said that the standards were still in violation downstream of AC's effluence.
The previous statement said the standards were in violation ABOVE the AC effluence.
They never said how good/bad AC's effluence was - only that the AC effluence didn't eliminate the problem.
If I missed where they attributed the violation to AC, then please point that out. If it involves reading and understanding all the jargon, you win.
I will just refer you to deltaland's most excellent analysis of the situation.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:06 pm to ChineseBandit58
?????
Page 21....
Whatever....
Like I said, Allen Canning might have been totally innocent later. I'd like to know how deltaland knows that.
Page 21....
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The model output shows, furthermore, that the DO standard continues to be violated as a result of the effluent from Allen Canning.
Whatever....
Like I said, Allen Canning might have been totally innocent later. I'd like to know how deltaland knows that.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:08 pm to Rex
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So, I'm taking from this that you think it's OK to have untreated open air cesspools?
If nobody is using it and there are no harmful chemicals coming in contact with people, why the frick do you care?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:16 pm to Homesick Tiger
Yea that's the same company they have plants operating in numerous locations. I'm just talking about one specific plant that closed years ago.
I'm not familiar with their current issues elsewhere but hopefully whoever bought the company can turn it around,
I'm not familiar with their current issues elsewhere but hopefully whoever bought the company can turn it around,
Posted on 4/15/14 at 7:29 pm to Rex
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The model output shows, furthermore, that the DO standard continues to be violated as a result of the effluent from Allen Canning.
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Whatever....
so, you cannot parse the phrase 'continues to be violated' - is that right?
analogy = water that it 80% polluted advances to the AC plant effluent.
AC dumps pure water into the stream.
Water leaving the AC effluent is still 70% polluted.
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standard continues to be violated as a result of the effluent from Allen Canning
So, AC is at fault, right?
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