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How did this country survive for more than 100 years without an income tax?
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:24 pm
do away with it!
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:25 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
WHERE DID THE ROADS COME FROM?
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:25 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
More people actually worked for a living
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:25 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
No entitlements?
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Because prior to that we didn'thave multiple generations of people too lazy and stupid to take care of themselves.
AKA, Dems figured out how to buy votes.
AKA, Dems figured out how to buy votes.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Fighting multiple wars, no less.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I need to find a good book on the history of the federal income tax. I'd love to know how they rationalized it. I imagine it was kinda like Obamacare getting passed.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
no reason for an income tax if you take loopholes out of the corporate tax codes and make business actually pay a fair percentage (not mom and pop shops, your big boys that actually use said loopholes).
with a consumption tax, we could fund everything we need
with a consumption tax, we could fund everything we need
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:32 pm to Aubie Spr96
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I need to find a good book on the history of the federal income tax. I'd love to know how they rationalized it. I imagine it was kinda like Obamacare getting passed.
Same time as the FED.
the creature from jekyl Island is a great book on the topic.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:32 pm to Aubie Spr96
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I need to find a good book on the history of the federal income tax. I'd love to know how they rationalized it. I imagine it was kinda like Obamacare getting passed.
The most interesting tidbit about the process was the problem of actual collection. Tax collectors have been attacked or killed throughout history.
The govt went to the president of Sears and Roebuck for advice. He came up with the idea of withholding. 'Don't ask them to send it in. Take it before they get paid.'
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:33 pm to Zach
quote:very interesting indeed
The govt went to the president of Sears and Roebuck for advice. He came up with the idea of withholding. 'Don't ask them to send it in. Take it before they get paid.'
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:33 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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How did this country survive for more than 100 years without an income tax?
1. You didn't have the high costs of maintaining roadways and navigable waterways that you do now.
2. Social programs (runs the gambit from SNAP to NEA to sugar subsidies).
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:33 pm to CptBengal
Yeah. I know the FED, Income Tax, and the endless war cycle all started at the same time. I'll look for that book.
Thanks,
Thanks,
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
One of the most destructive things we ever did to this Republic. Permit direct taxation of the citizenry. Undermined the role of the States in providing another separation of powers (which had already begun during the Civil War). Encouraged crony capitalism and legislative corruption. It will be the end of this Nation.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:36 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It's is an antique monstrosity that was conceived of around the Civil War.
It has morphed from a revenue tool to a social control tool.
It needs to be abolished.
It has morphed from a revenue tool to a social control tool.
It needs to be abolished.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:37 pm to Zach
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'Don't ask them to send it in. Take it before they get paid.'
The beginning of the end.
Now most people that pay taxes don't pay attention to how much they actually pay.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:38 pm to Machine
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with a consumption tax, we could fund everything we need
I agree, so long as food and medicine (plus medical care) is exempt.
Everyone has skin in the game at that point--those of us with regular jobs, those who work in the cash economy, the deadbeat, the welfare baby mama--and can all share.
In theory socialists should like this idea as it is more in tune with their "shared sacrifice" views (of course, they only want the "little people" to do any sharing).
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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How did this country survive for more than 100 years without an income tax?
Bison was plentiful & cheap, and energy costs were a lot more reasonable.
Even Starbucks coffee was reasonably cheap back then.
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