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How can you be for globalization and an environmentalist?

Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:23 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22424 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:23 pm
This makes no sense. Trump Will save America and in turn the enviroment will be cleaner. Less fuel used for transport, less pollution due to less shite made in third world countries, and perhaps less consumerism due to increased price of some goods.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:26 pm to
Less consumerism? You blasphemer!

Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:27 pm to
If only there were a way to make environmentalism compatible with economic growth

Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37538 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:32 pm to
"Environmentalists" pollute more than your average American.

College campuses are full of professors who preach global warming yet are on planes every weekend for conferences.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:33 pm to
These activists that call themselves environmentalists are socialists first. They call themselves environmentalists as a means to a socialist end. They see the issue of climate change and the carbon tax as a means to grow government and redistribute wealth on a global scale.

That's one avenue to the socialist end.

The other is cultural Marxism. Economic Marxism doesn't sell as well as cultural Marxism today (e.g., income inequality, minimum wage, etc.).
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 8:36 pm
Posted by Iosh
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18941 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:34 pm to
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They see the issue of climate change and the carbon tax as a means to grow government and redistribute wealth on a global economy scale.
There are numerous governments with a carbon tax and I don't think any of them transfer those revenues to the Third World.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15320 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:38 pm to
Have to save the world from U.S factory pollution by sending that production to a third world country with nearly zero environmental protections. It's the thought process only a liberal idiot could possess.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:38 pm to
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There are numerous governments with a carbon tax and I don't think any of them transfer those revenues to the Third World.


Right. Not now, however this is what they want.

This is why TPP had support from the Obama supporters.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9105 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:40 pm to
"Doublethink".

Remember, these are people who will tell you they hate corporatism in one breath, then tell you the SCOTUS' decision on Obamacare was wonderful in the next.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37136 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:41 pm to
Hmm...now what is their relation to each other?

Oh, I know... Environmentalism allows you to control the populace 'for the greater good'. Sort of like taking over healthcare, so evil initiatives can be disguised 'for public health' like the Nazi's used.

It really isn't complicated, if you understand history (not the rewritten history)
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:49 pm to
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Right. Not now, however this is what they want.
If it's what they wanted then they would do it. Nobody's making Ireland or Denmark or Japan instiute them in the first place.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:56 pm to
What? Carbon tax is generally supported by many major energy companies because it is good for big business (which are based in the first world). It actually stifles competition from emerging markets.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:00 pm to
Legit question
Posted by ArkLaTexTiger
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
2466 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:29 pm to
Think global, buy local.
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