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Higher Education Reform and Opportunity Act (Mike Lee)

Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:55 am
Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:55 am
New article on the Federalist that outlines a restructuring of US higher education that's worth a read. Sorry if Germans.

Mike Lee: A Plan for State-Based Accreditation of Alternative Higher Education
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Under the federal Higher Education Act, students are eligible for Title IV student loans and grants only if they attend formally accredited institutions. That makes some sense, for purposes of quality control. Except that under the law, only degree-issuing academic institutions are allowed to be accredited. And only the U.S. Department of Education gets to say who can be an accreditor.

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The Higher Education Reform and Opportunity Act would give states the power to create their own, alternative systems of accrediting Title IV-eligible higher education providers.

State participation would be totally voluntary, and would in no way interfere with the current system. State-based accreditation would augment, not replace, the current regime. (College presidents can rest assured that if they like their regional accreditor, they can keep it.)

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Authorized businesses could accredit courses and programs to teach precisely the skills they need for their employees. Apple or Google could accredit computer courses. Dow could accredit a chemistry program, and Boeing could craft its own aerospace engineering “major.”

This is definitely the type of bill I could get behind. Returns a substantial amount of control over education to the states and could open up all kinds of new jobs in training and teaching. Also love the idea of "business accreditation". Goes a long way to help the people that have been or will be screwed by the education bubble, either because of 1) unemployment (or even mal-employment), 2) high levels of debt, and 3) rising costs of education.

Thoughts?
This post was edited on 1/15/14 at 10:59 am
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27825 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:00 am to
business already work with colleges on degrees where subjects matter. I'm not sure this will do much.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:01 am to
A really solid proposal. We'll see how the union-backed Democrats and our racist DOJ counters.

It's tough to touch education in any form, especially if the words "deregulation" or "state autonomy" are included because the high school teachers unions along with the tenured academic left with stand staunchly in opposition to smart reform that benefits students, consumers and small business.
This post was edited on 1/15/14 at 11:04 am
Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
8371 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:02 am to
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A really solid proposal. We'll see how the union-backed Democrats and our racist DOJ counters.



The labor union cartel, of course, will keep this from ever happening.
Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
8371 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:13 am to
quote:

It's tough to touch education in any form, especially if the words "deregulation" or "state autonomy" are included because the high school teachers unions along with the tenured academic left with stand staunchly in opposition to smart reform that benefits students, consumers and small business.


You're right, and it sucks how people like me (new college graduate) get stiffed because of it. And don't even get me started on a student loan bailout.

Although I'm all in favor of complete overhaul, this is a step in the right direction.
This post was edited on 1/15/14 at 11:13 am
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38918 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:32 am to
Some of those college graduates are unemployed because they poorly chose their majors. A college degree shouldn't entitle you to a job.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Some of those college graduates are unemployed because they poorly chose their majors. A college degree shouldn't entitle you to a job.


Where did anyone say it does?
Posted by TheJacer
Member since Nov 2012
789 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

business already work with colleges on degrees where subjects matter. I'm not sure this will do much.


Currently accredited degree programs can be seriously convoluted by default requisite courses. I'd hope that with particular business accreditation one could forego sociology, psychology, music history and biology when pursuing their computer programming degree if the major industry players don't value these fields of study.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18314 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 12:27 pm to
Nashville School of Law produces an outstanding Bar exam passing rate but its not accredited.

Brave to Lee for getting the ball rolling on this.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38918 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 12:31 pm to
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Where did anyone say it does?


Just thinking out loud I guess.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9112 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 1:33 pm to
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Where did anyone say it does?


LINK
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14499 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 2:05 pm to
Neat idea but should not make state definitions the criteria for federal funds.

Basically everything would be come eligible because states will want to maximize revenue.

Would have to have some sort of formula to disperse the funds.
Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
8371 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 4:25 pm to
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A college degree shouldn't entitle you to a job.


Certainly true. Just as there are some majors (engineering) with very good job accessibility. But in any case, we can agree that a Bachelor's Degree has certainly been devalued.
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