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re: "Hidden Figures" cannot be historically accurate

Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:37 am to
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:37 am to
Personally I prefer not to RA and leave that shite up so we know he is racist.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:39 am to
I didn't even RA (rarely do), just amazed that someone would just roll it on out there like that, I guess
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:40 am to
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I would say the thread beginning on the concept that it was factually impossible for black women in the 1950's and 1960's to play a critical role in the space program is pretty fricking racist.

Toss on the overblown nitpicking of typical Hollywood "based on a true story" stuff because SJWs blah blah blah

That post on the front page belittling what they did.

Refusing to acknowledge the challenges they faced in segregated schools.

Yeah the thread does kind of shite on these black women.





So you've determined that the OP is racist. Could it possibly be intellectual curiosity? Can there be honest intellectual curiosity when race is involved?

Hollywood is a liberal echo chamber. They did that to themselves.

What is belittling is that the question is so honest. In today's world- blacks are good, whites are bad. I think it is relevant to the story and this thread that they made up a racist character so that there would be one. Perhaps that is where some of the cynicism comes from? Maybe?
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:42 am to
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just amazed
You and me both my friend.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:45 am to
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Can you guys that have a problem with this movie link me to the post where you were outraged about exaggerations in "based on true story" movies about white men? I'll wait...





I can't remember a movie that was based on "white men" other than "white men can't jump", can you? At least none of the movies i watch focus on the race of the characters. List me some that do, that are based on actual events, and if i've watched them, i'll give you my review and the fact vs. fiction of hollywood.

It's sad that you believe everything from movies that are "based on actual events". I suppose you believe that means every moment of those movies are true. Next time you see any movie that states "based on a true story" look up the actual true story first. You might learn that your idols in California sensationalize and blatantly makeup 95% of most of those movies to give more flare or drama to the real story. Take these movies with a grain of salt, and your sanity may be restored.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:45 am to
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So you've determined that the OP is racist. Could it possibly be intellectual curiosity? Can there be honest intellectual curiosity when race is involved?


Sure there can be. However this question largely can be answered by a simple google search. Second a honestly curious inquiry doesn't usually start with the thing you are curious about being "factually impossible."

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Hollywood is a liberal echo chamber. They did that to themselves.


Sure but nothing about this movie (again haven't seen it) seems like it really matters. The exaggeration happens in every "based on a true story."

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In today's world- blacks are good, whites are bad


Please don't collapse under the weight of that cross. White people, myself included, are doing just fine.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:45 am to
Big Scrub will be here soon to let you know how racist you are....
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:46 am to
Just read that article about Katherine Johnson.

Damn...that lady could math the frick outta some shite.

I don't care who you are, a BS in Math and French at the age of 18 is impressive as hell.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:46 am to
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But I understand you can't make a movie with 300 characters. It is simply not possible." -Space.com

I beg to differ-
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:47 am to
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White people, myself included, are doing just fine.


This is hardly the point.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:48 am to
Also look up Margaret Hamilton. A white woman who was also instrumental in the early-middle space program.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 8:49 am
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:50 am to
Then what is the point? Because the victim complex of this bord seems massive from my perspective.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:50 am to
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I mean, factually speaking there is no way that a group of 8 or so African American women in 1950s and 1960's America would have the education and experience necessary to provide critical information to the top scientists in the world working at NASA.

Am I wrong? I didn't see the movie but I just am suspicious of every liberal I'm friends with on Facebook having non stop posts about this.




Exactly what I thought when first seeing this trailer.

Not saying that they aren't smart enough to have learned that, but IOM Hollywood is once again playing revisionist historian for the sake of politics. The 50's and 60's were much different times racially not to mention the 40's, where these girls educations would have had to begin.

I think the based on ta true story line is a giant stretch.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:51 am to
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Sure there can be. However this question largely can be answered by a simple google search. Second a honestly curious inquiry doesn't usually start with the thing you are curious about being "factually impossible."


Then correct him. Don't assume he's a racist. That is a gross generalization, which is another liberal sin.

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Please don't collapse under the weight of that cross. White people, myself included, are doing just fine.



I'm doing just fine as well. But please don't insult me by pretending race issues are discussed openly and fairly. This thread being evidence.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:51 am to
You seem to have a very simplistic view of the world.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:53 am to
In what way? The large majority of Hollywood movies still have white males as the protagonist.

I'm not sure where all of this victimhood is coming from.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112635 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:56 am to
Who's claiming victim hood? What's wrong with being curious about Hollywood's motives with this film?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:57 am to
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CorporateTiger


Do you really find the skepticism that hard to believe nowadays?

I'll give you my first impressions of seeing the trailer for the movie and why.

I saw the trailer and thought "great, here comes another "all of the great accomplishments of the American citizen really should be attributed to black people" type of movie. I thought this due to Hollywoods obvious leftist slant and the new trend of hating white people simply because they are white, and that being perpetuated by the media nowadays. See black lives matter, "white privilege", and the director of "the butler" admitting that he made up "facts" about the movie to paint what HE sees as reality nowadays, not based on what factually happen, etc... for real time examples.
So i see this movie and i think, "while i'm sure there is some truth to this movie, i'm willing to bet most of it is made up to promote an agenda. I am not wrong for thinking that. So i did look up the fact vs. fiction, and to my surprise, there were some good factual points in the movie. I actually had no idea that women made up a vital segment in the beginnings of space exploration, and due to the times and hearing zero about it growing up, that especially black women had roles as "computers" pre-machine based computers. WHat i learned was interesting and impressive, and speaks more to hard working individuals more focused on working hard and providing for their family than they did about race implications despite the times they lived in. It really is a wonderful true story. However, as i pointed out in the fact vs. fiction of the movie, there was some typical hollywood exaggerations to sensationalize the racial component.

So i 100% understand anyone doubting hollywood's attention to authenticity on any "based on a true story" movie. They have trouble keeping to movies about fictional stories based on books. Why would anyone think they wouldn't fudge a true story?
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:57 am to
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Then correct him.


I did.

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Don't assume he's a racist.


First, I've never said OP is racist. He is a moron (for voting for Obama twice). I said this thread generally shows some racism. The attitude that black women couldn't have done this in this time period is generally rooted in ideas about what blacks (at that time period) were capable of, no?

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which is another liberal sin.



I'm nothing close to a liberal.

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I'm doing just fine as well. But please don't insult me by pretending race issues are discussed openly and fairly. This thread being evidence.


Race issues can be discussed openly and fairly. Posting shitty stereotypes about black people MMauler and assuming these accomplishments can't be true aren't an open and honest and fair way to open the dialogue.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:57 am to
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Then what is the point? Because the victim complex of this bord seems massive from my perspective.




Victim complex of cynical fockers sick of the victim complex. Dam, what have I become
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