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re: Here's How Breitbart And Milo Smuggled White Nationalism Into The Mainstream
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:48 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:48 pm to Draconian Sanctions
OMG who the hell cares.
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 5:55 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Milo likes black dudes
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:39 pm to Centinel
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Really dude?
Really. Your favorite website?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:41 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I remember a time on this board when you were just a dumbass.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:41 pm to beerJeep
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so a gay guy who regularly fricks black dudes is one of the leaders of white nationalism?
Yeah.
It's weird, but sometimes people are fricked in the head.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:42 pm to BamaAtl
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It's weird, but sometimes people are fricked in the head.
example A
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BamaAtl
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:49 pm to upgrayedd
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White nationalism claims are usually the cue for me to stop listening/reading.
Yep. People will believe anything. This white nationalism fantasy is a fine example
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:53 pm to OMLandshark
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Even Milo will call them white nationalists/supremacists these days.
Who are "them"? What would you guess "their" numbers are? How many fall into that definition?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:54 pm to Dale51
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Who are "them"?
Read the piece. You'll benefit.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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white nationalism fantasy
Milo's emails, in which he solicits story advice (and takes edits) from the leaders of Daily Stormer, white nationalist and other neo-nazi groups. And talks about how he's "in line" with them, but has to hide it.
Hits too close to home for you, or you're just not interested in who you got into bed with?
Because it was Nazis. You got into bed with Nazis.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:57 pm to BamaAtl
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Read the piece. You'll benefit.
How so? I asked a simple question looking for clarity.
What would you guess the number of these "white nationalists" is? What makes one a "white nationalist"?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:57 pm to VolInBavaria
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Milo likes black dudes
Yep.
I'll bet true white nationalists number in the thousands. Of course people who overusethe word racist are stupid enough to overestimate other things as well
Posted on 10/5/17 at 6:59 pm to Dale51
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How so?
You clearly have some questions about the relationship between Breitbart and white supremacists. The piece lays it out very clearly, all backed by facts.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:01 pm to BamaAtl
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BamaAtl
You are fake news
Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You want to know what really smuggled white nationalism into the mainstream? BLM riots.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:03 pm to BamaAtl
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You clearly have some questions about the relationship between Breitbart and white supremacists.
No..thats not my question at all. I'm asking for any evidence...and more importantly...a definition of this evil force of "white nationalism" in this country. You're begging the question.
In the last..say 5 years, what are some of the actions and consequences of this force you call "white nationalism"? Certainly you have some basis for your concern?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:21 pm to Draconian Sanctions
The article mentions this video immediately, and discusses it further throughout, and it made it actually sound pretty bad. But after watching the video, I found it to he highly decieving, and I think this was intentional. And with Buzzfeed's poor journalistic reputation, it doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. And here is why I find it deceiving and intentional:
I was specifically looking for that as I scrolled down, wondering where it was and if it's there at all. So after it really primes the home the idea that it's terrible and the terribleness is super obvious, it finally shows up near the very end.
Why wait that long, and after priming those ideas throughout? I wonder if it's because while details of the video are completely accurate, the article had me picturing something different. I envisioned a huge crowd full of people giving the Nazi salute, neither knowing or caring that they'll be in video. Instead it ended up being what appeared to he 2 or 3 people right up front, sitting with the person filming, for shot so quick I couldn't make out a face.
If I saw that video with just random people, I would think it was just a bunch of goofballs acting like drunken idiots at a karaoke bar, which I'm sure most of us have done. And obviously a Nazi salute is probably messing with a Jew, who they knew wouldn't be offended, with a little extra irony because of the song. Maybe it's poor taste, but it is still just drunken idiots.
So the only things that makes it seem nefarious, is the constant priming of it throughout the video, and Richard Spencer's presence (although I can't tell he's there). And while that does look questionable, I have no other context other than that were there goofing around. Did they come over after a deep discussion about how to push White Nationalism, or was it a more innocent meet up? Again. No context plus that deceiving priming make the former seem more likely, with nothing to support it.
As for Spencer. I despise him, but the world if full if despicable people, so it's tough to avoid them. And after reading The Atlantic article about him from his former high school classmate, he's a bit of an enigma, with the basis and development of his views and his rise to prominence quite unclear. Maybe he's just a charlatan. Of course, that's why I read it in a reputable source like The Atlantic, because the world is often unclear, unlike this article would have you believe. I didn't even know who he was until this year.
So if Spencer is an enigma, we don't know the context of them meeting up, and Milo later disavowed him and his views, then why go out of the way to make such a big deal out of the video, and do it in such a decieving way?
Because Buzzfeed is terrible, and amplifying the toxicity with this junk. Who does that remind me of? Breitbart.
I was specifically looking for that as I scrolled down, wondering where it was and if it's there at all. So after it really primes the home the idea that it's terrible and the terribleness is super obvious, it finally shows up near the very end.
Why wait that long, and after priming those ideas throughout? I wonder if it's because while details of the video are completely accurate, the article had me picturing something different. I envisioned a huge crowd full of people giving the Nazi salute, neither knowing or caring that they'll be in video. Instead it ended up being what appeared to he 2 or 3 people right up front, sitting with the person filming, for shot so quick I couldn't make out a face.
If I saw that video with just random people, I would think it was just a bunch of goofballs acting like drunken idiots at a karaoke bar, which I'm sure most of us have done. And obviously a Nazi salute is probably messing with a Jew, who they knew wouldn't be offended, with a little extra irony because of the song. Maybe it's poor taste, but it is still just drunken idiots.
So the only things that makes it seem nefarious, is the constant priming of it throughout the video, and Richard Spencer's presence (although I can't tell he's there). And while that does look questionable, I have no other context other than that were there goofing around. Did they come over after a deep discussion about how to push White Nationalism, or was it a more innocent meet up? Again. No context plus that deceiving priming make the former seem more likely, with nothing to support it.
As for Spencer. I despise him, but the world if full if despicable people, so it's tough to avoid them. And after reading The Atlantic article about him from his former high school classmate, he's a bit of an enigma, with the basis and development of his views and his rise to prominence quite unclear. Maybe he's just a charlatan. Of course, that's why I read it in a reputable source like The Atlantic, because the world is often unclear, unlike this article would have you believe. I didn't even know who he was until this year.
So if Spencer is an enigma, we don't know the context of them meeting up, and Milo later disavowed him and his views, then why go out of the way to make such a big deal out of the video, and do it in such a decieving way?
Because Buzzfeed is terrible, and amplifying the toxicity with this junk. Who does that remind me of? Breitbart.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:25 pm to BamaAtl
quote:I despise Breitbart, and I despise the white Nationalism, supremacy, etc., and this terrible article reminds me of a Breitbart article. It's just written like it was a longform essay in the New York Times or some other reputable source.
You clearly have some questions about the relationship between Breitbart and white supremacists. The piece lays it out very clearly, all backed by facts.
But it can hide behind the appearance of credibility, but the core of it is just like Breitbart.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:32 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:No, Milo is
Are Progs that completely mentally incapacitated?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:39 pm to Dale51
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Who are "them"? What would you guess "their" numbers are? How many fall into that definition?
Prior to being run off the internet and onto the dark web after Charlottesville Stormfront was the largest site where the "National Supremacists" gathered. It had very high traffic and just over 80k members. The site self-proclaimed themselves White Nationalists which they felt allowed them less mainstream push back. While they tried to self police some of the worst rhetoric and slurs the place was more than bad enough to make the ghost of George Wallace say "Damn, y'all racist". They had forum after forum dedicated to the most openly racist material I have ever seen in my life directed almost exclusively to blacks and Jews with a side order of Muslim. (I should note the members were worldwide but primarily from the US)
Stormfront was actually the kinder gentler version, the rawest was The Daily Stormer which was full bore racism designed to appeal to the younger crowd and draw them into the "cause".
The interesting thing to me was when they both got shut down I saw at least a doubling of outright racists comments on Breitbart and also saw their acronyms, dog whistles and euphemisms start showing up on a regular basis.
While I hate the methods and tactics of Antifa, C-ville did result in the banishment of Stormfront and the Stormer from the mainstream internet and cripple their ability to catch and indoctrinate the casual browser.
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