re: Greatest presidential quotes :

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"No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory." - Franklin D. Roosevelt, 8 December 1941

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Signed,

the a-hole who did everything in his power to ensure that he could get into Europe through a war with Japan and didn't tell his commanders in Hawaii that he knew Japan was going to war with the US.

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Signed,

the a-hole who did everything in his power to ensure that he could get into Europe through a war with Japan and didn't tell his commanders in Hawaii that he knew Japan was going to war with the US.

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Is there actual evidence to this. I've heard it from other service members before and find it hard to believe that a U.S. President will allow so many American lives to be lost to get into a war. Definitely interested in the topic as WWII is one of my favorite periods in history to study.

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."

- James Madison

FDR My Little Dog Fala

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Is there actual evidence to this. I've heard it from other service members before and find it hard to believe that a U.S. President will allow so many American lives to be lost to get into a war. Definitely interested in the topic as WWII is one of my favorite periods in history to study.

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Yeah there is a lot of evidence for it. The Mises Institute has the book Pearl Harbor: The Seeds and Fruit of Infamy available for free on audio book. It was written by Percy Greaves Jr. and was published in 2010. It contains a ton of historical information from a reliable source.

If you haven't read that book, then you really really should. Basically, the US had cracked the Japanese diplomatic code well before pearl harbor and was intercepting their diplomatic cables for much of the pre war negotiations (which FDR had no intentions of continuing). The program was called Purple Magic.

He knew that the Japs had given up on the pathetic US attempts to prevent the war Many days before the attack. He kept his US commanders in Hawaii in the dark, then he fired them for incompetence. Despite the fact that they didn't have enough resources to perform adequate security, and had no idea that negotiations had broken down. They were literally reading newspapers, which said the exact opposite about the negotiations.

Read it.

We Choose To Go To The Moon

Letter from the Federal Convention President to the President of Congress, Transmitting the Constitution

September 17, 1787

Sir,

We have now the honor to submit to the consideration of the United States in Congress assembled, that Constitution which has appeared to us the most advisable.

The friends of our country have long seen and desired, that the power of making war, peace, and treaties, that of levying money and regulating commerce, and the correspondent executive and judicial authorities should be fully and effectually vested in the general government of the Union: But the impropriety of delegating such extensive trust to one body of men is evident -- Hence results the necessity of a different organization.

It is obviously impractical in the federal government of these states, to secure all rights of independent sovereignty to each, and yet provide for the interest and safety of all: Individuals entering into society, must give up a share of liberty to preserve the rest. The magnitude of the sacrifice must depend as well on situation and circumstances, as on the object to be obtained. It is at all times difficult to draw with precision the line between those rights which must be surrendered, and those which may be reserved; and on the present occasion this difficulty was encreased by a difference among the several states as to their situation, extent, habits, and particular interests.

In all our deliberations on this subject we kept steadily in our view, that which appears to us the greatest interest of every true American, the consolidation of our Union, in which is involved our prosperity, felicity, safety, perhaps our national existence. This important consideration, seriously and deeply impressed on our minds, led each state in the Convention to be less rigid on points of inferior magnitude, than might have been otherwise expected; and thus the Constitution, which we now present, is the result of a spirit of amity, and of that mutual deference and concession which the peculiarity of our political situation rendered indispensable.

That it will meet the full and entire approbation of every state is not perhaps to be expected; but each will doubtless consider that had her interest been alone consulted, the consequences might have been particularly disagreeable or injurious to others; that it is liable to as few exceptions as could reasonably have been expected, we hope and believe; that it may promote the lasting welfare of that country so dear to us all, and secure her freedom and happiness, is our most ardent wish.

With great respect, We have the honor to be, Sir, Your Excellency's most obedient and humble servants,

George Washington, President By unanimous Order of the Convention.

His Excellency, the President of Congress

"The signs look better. The Father of Waters again goes unvexed to the sea. Thanks to the great Northwest for it. Nor yet wholly to them. Three hundred miles up, they met New England, Empire, Key-stone, and Jersey, hewing their way right and left. The Sunny South too, in more colors than one, also lent a hand. On the spot, their part of the history was jotted down in black and white. The job was a great national one; and let none be banned who bore an honorable part in it. And while those who have cleared the great river may well be proud, even that is not all. It is hard to say that anything has been more bravely, and well done, than at Antietam, Murfreesboro, Gettysburg, and on many fields of lesser note. Nor must Uncle Sam's web-feet be forgotten. At all the watery margins they have been present. Not only on the deep sea, the broad bay, and the rapid river, but also up the narrow muddy bayou, and wherever the ground was a little damp, they have been, and made their tracks. Thanks to all. For the great republic--for the principle it lives by, and keeps alive--for man's vast future--thanks to all."

A. Lincoln 8/26/63

Letter to James Conkling

"Wherever the standard of freedom and independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will recommend the general cause, by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.

She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself, beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force. The frontlet upon her brows would no longer beam with the ineffable splendor of freedom and independence; but in its stead would soon be substituted an imperial diadem, flashing in false and tarnished lustre the murky radiance of dominion and power. She might become the dictatress of the world: she would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit."

- John Quincy Adams, 7/4/21

She Goes Not Abroad In Search of Monsters To Destroy

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That of course is complete nonsense.

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Sorry your cock worship of a war mongering socialist piece of shite didn't work out. Is what it is man. I don't write history, I just read it. Your synopsis of FDR and WWII is the most delusional shite I've read since the last thing you wrote.

Don't you have an Abraham Lincoln statue to blow or something?


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