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GOP wants Obamacare, wants amnesty and wants spending increases.

Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:10 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:10 pm
That's your GOP:
quote:


There are many people rightly concerned about legislative issues seemingly stuck in the mud. However, what many of those same people seem to forget is the basic reality of President Trump’s America-First agenda being opposed by professional republicans even more than it is opposed by professional Democrats. DC is a UniParty.

Republican and Democrat political leadership, the UniParty writ large, have been paid to protect the legislative priorities of the multi-billion lobbying group known as K-Street.

The fallacy of false choice lies behind the concept of controlled opposition.

Prior to Donald Trump there was only one political party in DC, the Uniparty. President Trump represents the alternative; the second party.

For almost five years we have been pointing out the construct. The UniParty have three unwavering primary objectives as purchased by the lobbying groups: 1) Retention of Obamacare; 2) Budgetary spending to retain growth of government; and 3) comprehensive immigration reform to include amnesty.

These three primary legislative issues are not up for debate, modification or discussion. The legislative outcomes have been purchased, multi-million-dollar investments made, and the interests behind the legislative constructs will not allow any elimination or concession.



Beyond that reality, the rest is simply political optics and gamesmanship. If you refuse to accept this baseline, you will continue to find yourself frustrated as you try to reconcile what is not happening.

Congress, as salesmen for the interests funding their activity, does that which is important to it; and congress does not do that which is antithetical to its pre-purchased interests.

President Trump, through his proposed policy objectives, is antithetical to those interests.

FULL STOP.

Essentially, President Trump has requested the following:

A budget with actual baseline reductions in spending. Where Trump’s cabinet, individually and collectively, will actually reduce scale, scope and reach of federal government.
Healthcare reform to include the elimination of ObamaCare and a return to free market principles to drive down the cost of insurance products.
Funding funding to enhance enforcement of existing immigration law and a border wall to ensure the long-term reductions in the ease of illegal, unauthorized migration.
All three of those requests are opposed by Republicans and Democrats in congress. You can beat your head against the wall in frustration, but the reality doesn’t change. The big money interests who write legislation have paid all members of congress to block these basic principles of President Trump policy.

EXAMPLE – You might remember seeing Senator Rand Paul on TV for 10-consecutive-days (March), proclaiming that RyanCare must be defeated. Toward that end Senator Paul put on a tuxedo went to the House of Representatives, lobbied them personally, and handed out instructions and books telling Hillary’s Favorite Caucus (HFC) if they simply blocked President Trump and Secretary Price he (Paul) would, within two weeks, provide a clean repeal bill from the Senate. Senator Rand Paul said he and Senator Ted Cruz and Senator Mike Lee already had the legislation written for the clean repeal. Senator Paul stated if the House members simply followed his plan he would guarantee the “repeal only” bill would advance within two weeks.



Remember that?

Well?…

This is the same UniParty that approved Trade Promotion Authority, a Republican Bill, that allowed President Obama to construct TPP and congress reversed the threshold for approval – making it necessary for two-thirds of the Senate to oppose passage to stop it, instead of two-thirds necessary to approve passage. Why would a republican controlled congress make it easier for Obama-Trade to pass and make it harder to stop?

This is the same UniParty that has refused to accept the ‘Notification of Intent’ letter from Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross permitting him to renegotiate NAFTA. Why would a republican controlled congress block President Trump from re-negotiating NAFTA?

Go back and look at the lobbying money spent by the U.S. CoC.

You see, this is where CTH refuses to be co-dependents in our own abuse. We fully understand, and more importantly ‘accept’, the DC UniParty congress has no intention of: Providing a budget to lower spending; repealing and replacing ObamaCare; allowing enforcement of immigration law to include deportation and a southern border wall.

It can be difficult to accept these realities. It can be difficult to confront your abuser. However, until the larger electorate understand the structural concept of the UniParty, there will be hours-upon-hours of talking in circles, and tens of thousands of column inches typed in an effort to reconcile the irreconcilable and avoid accepting the diagnosis:

….Battered Conservative Syndrome !

Codependent no more!





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Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58027 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:13 pm to
To say that both parties are basically the same is a cliche' , but it's true. All politicians care more about themsleves and their pocketbooks than their constituents and it will always be this way.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41680 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:15 pm to
Politicians don't want to represent the people. They want to gain and maintain power and control. They will throw small bones to the people to keep getting re-elected, but they are primarily concerned with their own political survival and advancement. It would stand to reason that they are more or less in the same boat, being propped up by the waters of lobbyist money.
Posted by silverdude
Member since Mar 2017
216 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:17 pm to
dont kid yourself. Trump is part of this "uniparty" as well
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:17 pm to
Yep, like they say follow the money and you will see who really controls this country. Everybody else are just pawns.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:18 pm to
Trump will never get Obamacare repealed. Not because he doesn't want to. Not because he's trying to do what his voters elected him to do. It's because congress won't allow it.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

This is the same UniParty that has refused to accept the ‘Notification of Intent’ letter from Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross permitting him to renegotiate NAFTA. Why would a republican controlled congress block President Trump from re-negotiating NAFTA?



this is interesting GumboPot. Please provide some backing for this info. TIA.



Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Please provide some backing for this info. TIA.


This is what I found:

quote:

Our message is simple – the games are over, and improper treatment of the United States will no longer be tolerated. We will approach future negotiations and actions with a clarity of purpose guiding us as we work to establish both free and fair trade. Unfortunately, NAFTA negotiations cannot begin until Congress accepts our 90-day notification letter in compliance with the Trade Promotion Act. But, under President Trump’s leadership, I have no doubt that we will be successful in rebalancing American trade in favor of American workers and businesses.

And so Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross lobs a volley at Congress and calls them out for not giving him what he needs before he can look out for the best interests of the American people.




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Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:24 pm to
Question is in this day and age how long before the masses understand how corrupt and inefficient our government is? When will the people insist upon change that puts the power back in the hands of the people?


Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

they are more or less in the same boat, being propped up by the waters of lobbyist money.


degrees

Some dems call for the end of Citizens United and the right of a company to buy an election.
It seems obvious that if any one human person wants to give a bit or a lot, that's one thing and its quite another for a company that stands to make a trillion over a 15 year period to put BILLIONS into electing friends in Congress.

Clearly, more Republicans support fundamentalist views on life liberty and the pursuit of happiness than do Democrats.

I see more dems for absolute freedom than Republicans.
I see more Republicans like the guy from Shreveport {whose affiliations are unknown to me) who wants to end Louisiana colleges from being able to sell beer in student centers. defund planned parenthood looks like a R party favorite. eh?

some issues seem to garner support from both parties.

I think the essentials of Obama/ACA are going to stay because more people want them than want nothing. I think the R's would be swept out in 2018 if they actually just repeal.


Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

When will the people insist upon change that puts the power back in the hands of the people?


Never. Too many goodies given out by Uncle Sugar.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140482 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Question is in this day and age how long before the masses understand how corrupt and inefficient our government is? When will the people insist upon change that puts the power back in the hands of the people?


Holy shite.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

I see more dems for absolute freedom than Republicans.


If you're talking pure social issues, then yes I'd tend to agree with you.

If you're talking economic issues as well, you're full of fricking shite.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 4:16 pm to
"All politicians care more about themselves and their pocketbooks than their constituents and it will always be this way."


It will take the people realizing this and mobilizing to take our country back. As long as we are all divided we are lost.

Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 4:27 pm to
On budgetary issues the parties are more or less the same.

Hell on most issues the parties are more or less the same.
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