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GOP presidential hopefuls begin shadow campaign for 2020

Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Toddy
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Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:00 pm
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WASHINGTON — Senators Tom Cotton and Ben Sasse have already been to Iowa this year, Gov. John Kasich is eyeing a return visit to New Hampshire, and Mike Pence’s schedule is so full of political events that Republicans joke that he is acting more like a second-term vice president hoping to clear the field than a No. 2 sworn in a little over six months ago.

President Trump’s first term is ostensibly just warming up, but luminaries in his own party have begun what amounts to a shadow campaign for 2020 — as if the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue weren’t involved.


The would-be candidates are cultivating some of the party’s most prominent donors, courting conservative interest groups and carefully enhancing their profiles. Mr. Trump has given no indication that he will decline to seek a second term.

But the sheer disarray surrounding this presidency, the intensifying investigation by the special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and the plain uncertainty about what Mr. Trump will do in the next week, let alone in the next election, have prompted Republican officeholders to take political steps that are unheard-of so soon into a new administration.

Asked about those Republicans who seem to be eyeing 2020, a White House spokeswoman, Lindsay Walter, fired a warning shot: “The president is as strong as he’s ever been in Iowa, and every potentially ambitious Republican knows that.”

But in interviews with more than 75 Republicans at every level of the party, elected officials, donors and strategists expressed widespread uncertainty about whether Mr. Trump would be on the ballot in 2020 and little doubt that others in the party are engaged in barely veiled contingency planning.

“They see weakness in this president,” said Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona. “Look, it’s not a nice business we’re in.”

Mr. Trump changed the rules of intraparty politics last year when he took down some of the leading lights of the Republican Party to seize the nomination. Now a handful of hopefuls are quietly discarding traditions that would have dictated, for instance, the respectful abstention from speaking at Republican dinners in the states that kick off the presidential nomination process.


Republicans make moves as Trump doubts grow
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108541 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:01 pm to
It has crossed my mind that the RNC might not let Trump go uncontested for the 2020 election.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36065 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:03 pm to
There hasn't been a major primary challenge of an incumbent President since Ted Kennedy ran against Jimmy Carter in 1980.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27271 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:03 pm to
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It is cemented in my mind that the RNC will not let Trump go uncontested for the 2020 election.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55489 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:03 pm to
IS THIS THE END OF TRUMP?
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:03 pm to
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There hasn't been a major primary challenge of an incumbent President since Ted Kennedy ran against Jimmy Carter in 1980.


Indeed. It would be the first in decades.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101453 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:04 pm to
Sounds shadowy.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50314 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:04 pm to
It will be fun watching Prog Filth root for these Repubs now, only to call them racist, sexist, homophobe, xenophobes later if one were to bypass Trump.

It is hilarious watching them all worship McCain now, while just 9 short years ago McCain was all the things I listed above AND also served dishonorably during Vietnam. Trump treated McCain no differently in 2016 than the left did in 2008 now that I think about it. LOL
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69306 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:04 pm to
Trump would crush them all
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:04 pm to
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Trump would crush them all


Most likely. But it does show the huge disarray the Republican Party is in.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27271 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:05 pm to
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There hasn't been a major primary challenge of an incumbent President since Ted Kennedy ran against Jimmy Carter in 1980.


Jimmy Carter himself was a disaster, but the RNC will do well to take notes on how damaging the Dem primary was to Carter.

But I don't think it matters at this point. The RNC will want Trump gone, even if that means a Dem in the White House.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55489 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:07 pm to
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But it does show the huge disarray the Republican Party is in.


Good, both parties appear to be unraveling at the seams. frick 'em both and put 'em in the trash. They are nothing but a bunch of parasitic mafiosos with window dressing.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:07 pm to
Lol. "A Better Deal." Its just Trumps agenda
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32800 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:08 pm to
LMAO. Cotton isn't running against Trump, and Sasse and Kasich would get demolished if they tried.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69306 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:08 pm to
Your party has 15 governorships and the lowest amount of power since the 1800s

Something about glass houses
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50314 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:09 pm to
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Most likely. But it does show the huge disarray the Republican Party is in.


No.

The Republicant's are just proving what many, like myself, have known all along, even when I was a staunch Dem voter:

They are spineless pussies that are literally siding with the establishment and Dems.

We saw what the Dems did 9 years ago when they had this power: they raised the deficit, passed the stimulus to pay back their ilk, then rammed Obamacare down our throats. They extended UE benefits, then put more people on food stamps and welfare to expand their base.

Republicans are just there to stop anyone from turning the above around. You and your ilk should love them for that.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:09 pm to
Delusion is strong. Its clear nobody wants to vote for crap Democrat policy
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101453 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:09 pm to
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Most likely. But it does show the huge disarray the Republican Party is in.


I, for one, am happy to see this fight play out.

What's the great uniting principle holding together strong the modern day Democratic Party?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55489 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:15 pm to
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What's the great uniting principle holding together strong the modern day Democratic Party?



Inherently self-contradictory intersectionalism.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 12:16 pm to
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Your party has 15 governorships and the lowest amount of power since the 1800s


That may be. The tides will turn again though. And when they do, the Democratic Party will actually get something accomplished in Washington. You might not like what they do, but they will get something done. Unlike this joke of a GOP that's in power now. I've never in my life seen such an ineffective use of power when a party controls the WH, House and Senate. It's pathetic. Of course a lot of that is due to the contentious relationship between the WH and Congress. Dealmaker, my arse.
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