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re: Good news for Obama regarding Obamacare
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:24 am to Lsut81
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:24 am to Lsut81
Btw, here are the qualifying events... Some of them are very suspect to say the least
What Is a Qualifying Life Event?
What Is a Qualifying Life Event?
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You have had a qualifying life event — and therefore qualify for the special enrollment period — if:
You move to a new area that offers you different plans, or isn't covered by your HMO network.
You get married.
You have or adopt a child.
You lose other health coverage due to job loss, a decrease in work hours, end of COBRA coverage or other reasons.*
You become a U.S. citizen.
Your income changes, or some other event changes your income or household status.
You can prove that your health insurance company violated its contract with you.
You are no longer covered on a family member's policy because you turned 26, you have legally separated from or divorced your spouse, or the policy holder has passed away.
You become a member of an American Indian and Alaska Native tribe.
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:24 am to Lsut81
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Not entirely true... There are only certain circumstances that qualify for enrollment at any point. Loss of Job, Marriage, Birth of Child, etc... For anyone else, they have to wait until Nov 15 open enrollment
That's not fair.
I don't see how such an arbitrary restriction is any different that the horribly restrictive voting laws in Ohio.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:26 am to Lsut81
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Not entirely true... There are only certain circumstances that qualify for enrollment at any point.
Sure. But no pre-existing conditions can be considered. And if my premiums are $500-$600/mo, I can buy a fair amount of medical care, cash on the barrel head, for that. And if I'm diagnosed with asthma, diabetes or any other number of expensive, long-term disease states, I can sign up in November. It's a great gamble.
Eta: looking at your list of "qualifying events," I could see a way to shoehorn into one of those with a little work. Quit your job. Take a leave of absence. Have your wife quit her job. The possibilities are limitless, really.
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 9:28 am
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:28 am to Lsut81
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There are only certain circumstances that qualify for enrollment at any point.
Medicaid FTW.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:28 am to Lsut81
Guys don't chase this rabbit. See my post on page 1.
This "study" was co-authored by 5 Dem hacks.
This "study" was co-authored by 5 Dem hacks.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:28 am to the808bass
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But no pre-existing conditions can be considered. And if my premiums are $500-$600/mo, I can buy a fair amount of medical care, cash on the barrel head, for that. And if I'm diagnosed with asthma, diabetes or any other number of expensive, long-term disease states, I can sign up in November. It's a great gamble.
But that wasn't what Iron said... He said people weren't signing up until they were in the hospital with a condition. Which IF they qualified under a life event, they could, but they can't just sign up in the middle of the year because they got sick.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:30 am to the808bass
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I could see a way to shoehorn into one of those with a little work
Which is why I said that some were suspect...
frick, all you have to do is become and Indian and you can sign up
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:30 am to Lsut81
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But that wasn't what Iron said... He said people weren't signing up until they were in the hospital with a condition.
They can certainly apply. And I'm sure the hospital social workers are more than happy to try to guide them through the process so the hospital gets a chance at reimbursement.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:30 am to Eurocat
Great! I hope all of the dems run on the success of obamacare!!
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:33 am to Eurocat
people who were previously not paying for their insurance, are now getting insurance for cheaper than if they had to pay for it themselves BUT it is being subsidized by those who are already paying for their own policy
SUCCESS!
SUCCESS!
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:34 am to Lsut81
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But that wasn't what Iron said... He said people weren't signing up until they were in the hospital with a condition. Which IF they qualified under a life event, they could, but they can't just sign up in the middle of the year because they got sick
Just to clarify; reading through the MD&A of publicly held providers - it is what appears to be happening if you look at the Q1 results.... will take a while to sift through Q2.
That being said, lots of people are qualifying for medicaid.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:34 am to ironsides
Accidental post. Ignore.
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 9:35 am
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:35 am to Poodlebrain
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And tighter management of subscribers' use of health care is simply refusing to cover some procedures or services that employer based plans routinely cover.
It's amazing to me, Poodle, how some admin hack will explain this away as the private employers weren't doing a good job "managing" the old plans.
People are patently stupid and will buy it.
Reminds me of the original narrative right after implementation where Obama tried to make the case that the old employer plans were deficient.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:42 am to Eurocat
Have you stopped to consider that the plans that are controlling costs are only those used to determine the subsidies? The lower the subsidies the more of the cost the subscriber will have to pay. The more the subscribers are required to pay the more people will choose not to subscribe. Thus, there will be more uninsured.
And the costs of Obamacare will not decrease either since Obamacare guarantees insurance companies will not suffer losses. So the insurance companies can price their policies at very risky levels secure in the knowledge that the government will cover them if they miss their bets. The cost to government of preventing insurance company losses will make up for any savings in subsidies to subscribers.
And the costs of Obamacare will not decrease either since Obamacare guarantees insurance companies will not suffer losses. So the insurance companies can price their policies at very risky levels secure in the knowledge that the government will cover them if they miss their bets. The cost to government of preventing insurance company losses will make up for any savings in subsidies to subscribers.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:42 am to Eurocat
quote:Common Core math!
Obamacare's cost will have to be revised downward yet again.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:52 am to Meauxjeaux
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What was $300, became $1000. Now it's $900. It's falling! Success!
Upvote
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:00 am to ironsides
Medicaid and Obamacare plans are two different things.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:05 am to Lsut81
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NY and Tenn as a whole were asked for 18% increases in premiums for 2015 by the insurers.
NY and TN need to pay their fair share and quit bitching!
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:07 am to Eurocat
Since we are going anecdotal.... My premiums went up 28%
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:16 am to Eurocat
And I bet the deductibles on these plans are sky high.
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