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God this Washington Post headline is pure sex

Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7521 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:19 pm
Another big Democratic loss. And yet more complaints about a ‘rigged’ system.

Sore losers

Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18455 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:20 pm to
I was expecting tits and arse. I am dissapoint.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54213 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:24 pm to
The site wants a dollar for me to keep reading. Give us a big hint to the article.
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7521 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:31 pm to
Full article incoming since it won't show:

quote:

Democrats just suffered yet another crushing loss. And this one comes with potentially long-lasting implications: a clear conservative majority on the Supreme Court that cements Republican domination of all levers of power in U.S. government.

And, perhaps naturally, that has led to some rationalizing.

Brett M. Kavanaugh’s confirmation has brought about a new round of complaints among Democrats about how allegedly unfair and even undemocratic our system of government has become. Previously, this was mostly about gerrymandering in the House and the electoral college, which in 2016 delivered the GOP its second popular-vote-losing president in 16 years. Now, it’s also aimed at the Senate, where small GOP-dominated states are increasingly passing things with the backing of a minority of Americans behind them. Still others are even talking about Democrats, if and when they retake power, packing the Supreme Court with additional justices to tilt it to the left.

That’s basically all the major levers of power in U.S. government that Democrats feel are unfair to them in some way, and must be rectified.

With the exception of a very gradual, state-by-state rollback of gerrymandering, none of these changes is likely to come soon, if ever. And it’s worth noting that they aren’t being pushed by many Democrats in Congress. But few things are as powerful in politics as a sense of victimhood. And circumstances have conspired to create a palpable, growing sense among the Democratic base that the system is rigged against them.

We can say a few things about this. The first is that it’s 100 percent true that Democrats are increasingly on the short end of how the U.S. government is set up — and demonstrably so. The second is that the government has been set up this way for many, many years, and these trends didn’t start this decade. And the third is that, in many ways, these Democrats' complaints represent an indictment of their party.

My colleague Philip Bump raised the unrepresentativeness of the Senate in a great piece this weekend. He noted that Kavanaugh was an unpopular nominee confirmed by senators representing less than half of the total U.S. population (not to mention that he was appointed by a president who lost the popular vote). The Senate these days can reach a majority, in fact, with the votes of senators representing 17 percent of the population.

A good addition to this thread is this chart from the NYT, showing "The minimum share of the U.S. population able to elect a Senate majority" is at an all-time low, almost half of what it was in 1790. LINK pic.twitter.com/xCdkRa1WMf

Some have labeled it as “undemocratic” that a minority could so rule the country. But it’s also true that this is how our government was set up. The bicameral legislature was a compromise forged in the Constitution. And even at the time, there were vast differences in the populations of states, with Virginia having 12 times as many people as Delaware. Both states were given two senators.

Today the gap between the biggest state and smallest state is closer to 70 times — California vs. Wyoming — but that difference is actually smaller than it has been for most of the past 150 years.

Here’s how that has looked over time, courtesy of Will Jordan:

Obviously this isn't quite the right way of making the comparison. Large relative changes happen with the orange line that you can't see. So here's the *ratio* between largest and smallest state. (CA is now roughly 66 times the size of WY) pic.twitter.com/weKPb23Seh

So two things are true: The possibility that a minority could control the country via the Senate was built into the Constitution, and also that this is happening with more regularity. That’s both because of how the population has shifted and how polarized Americans have become. If bills are passing with fewer votes, and smaller states that are increasingly dominated by one party are forming a majority of votes in the Senate, it means that fewer constituents will be behind those votes.

But this — and here’s the key point — doesn’t happen in a vacuum. These have been the ground rules since the late 1700s, and the map has been trending in this direction for decades and decades. Republicans have positioned themselves politically to take advantage of this; Democrats have done a decidedly poorer job.

It’s similar to what happened with redistricting. Republicans recognized the huge stakes in state legislatures, they won big there in the late 2000s, and now they have a historical amount of control over state governments and a congressional map that is more difficult for Democrats to penetrate.

It’s also similar to what happened with the electoral college. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes, but she neglected the crucial states at the end and wound up losing erstwhile blue states Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

The Dems for a long time have lacked a capable strategist. Adapting a strategy of turning every event into an apocalyptic fight has kept them from having a 30,000 ft view of what's going on. It's unreal how they have been basically asleep at the wheel.

That’s arguably what happened with the Supreme Court. Democrats nuked the filibuster for non-Supreme Court judicial nominees in 2013, and then they filibustered Neil M. Gorsuch in 2017, leading Republicans to nuke that rule, too. That meant Kavanaugh needed just 50 votes, which is what he got. Democrats will argue that the GOP would have pushed Kavanaugh through no matter what. That may be, but they sure made it easier.

It’s fair to raise concerns about how unfair the U.S. system of government is. No system is perfect. Our founders were flawed people who included the three-fifths compromise as part of this system of government. And there is a method to change this setup — albeit an extremely difficult one.

But at some point, Democrats may need to ask themselves why they are consistently on the short end of that setup. Is it because the system is inherently biased against a left-leaning political party? Or is it because they have been outmaneuvered at nearly every turn and failed to make sure they turned what has regularly been a majority of the votes for their side into actual political power?

It’s easy and cathartic to blame a rigged system. It’s probably much more fruitful to figure out why the other side has been able to work that system in a way you haven’t.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17762 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:34 pm to
Protestors chant "chug" out side Kavanaugh's home.

Such a boss
Posted by razthecat
Bay Minette, AL
Member since Oct 2010
2353 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:34 pm to
The comments are gold. The entire article was pointing out how republicans have figured out how to make the rules and setup of a constitutional/representative republic work in their favor.

The dems are firing off hate comments towards the author about how "oh so the problem isn't that republicans are cheating, its that democrats aren't finding a way to cheat better? RREEEEEE".

Newsflash, it isn't cheating, it is playing by the rules of the game. You can't show up to play a football game, call it rugby, attempt to play by rugby rules and expect to win. The US is NOT A DEMOCRACY and never has been.

Stop complaining because the rules don't fit your "feelings" on what type of government we have in our country.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16746 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

It’s easy and cathartic to blame a rigged system. It’s probably much more fruitful to figure out why the other side has been able to work that system in a way you haven’t.


Or it would be just as easy to recognize that the framers wanted to prevent a few over populated mega-metropolises from dominating the entire country.

The way they built it, you have to win over Americans everywhere.
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7521 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:37 pm to
It's fricking insane how they don't see the reason they aren't winning is because their message is pure shite. They literally have no grasp on reality.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95833 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:39 pm to
Funny how they never make these claims when they are in office.

When they hold office, it is all complaints about how the populace is “ungovernable” and that the rules need to be changed to give them more power.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51693 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

A good addition to this thread is this chart from the NYT, showing "The minimum share of the U.S. population able to elect a Senate majority" is at an all-time low, almost half of what it was in 1790.


Senators were not elected by voters until after the 17th Amendment was passed in 1913.
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Trumansfangs
Town & Country
Member since Sep 2018
6903 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

Protestors chant "chug" out side Kavanaugh's home.




Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s home, but anyway do these people that have time to protest all the time not have jobs ? To re-phrase, how well are professional protestors paid ?
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:51 pm to
The author points out that Democrat's failing at these systems is an indictment of their party, not the system.

The system is setup so that your party needs to be broad in terms of reach and representation.

The Democratic party is now a hyper concentrated collection of minorities and freaks in the cities and the system is correctly punishing them for not having broader appeal.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27938 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

cements Republican domination of all levers of power in U.S. government.

Which is not the way the founders intended. But if you live by the sword, then you die by the sword.

DIMs put all their eggs into activist judges legislating from the bench. And now that they have lost that shot at the highest court in the land, they admit they wcant win at any other level

That's why that lied, cheated, and stole to kill Kavs nomination
Posted by tigrbabe08
Member since Apr 2017
219 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 2:11 pm to
Why is it that all these news sites promoting progressivism and socialism etc. are always behind a paywall or begging for money?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123954 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

God this Washington Post headline is pure sex
I was expecting tits and arse. I am dissapoint.




Posted by NWLA Tiguh12
Member since Jul 2015
2402 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 2:16 pm to
Do they basically want NYC and LA to dominate the politics of the flyover states.

We know.
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 2:18 pm to
Its a psy-op. MSM is trying to lull conservatives into a false sense of confidence to offset how much they roused the GOP base after their Kavanaugh travesties.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123954 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 3:11 pm to
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The site wants a dollar for me to keep reading.
Yep. I won't pay the WaPo 1¢. Just switch browsers, renew cookies, or use Tor.
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