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Fun Reading: Hit pieces on HRC campaign from NY Mag and Rolling Stone
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:42 am
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:42 am
It's no big deal when places like Breitbart call this stuff out. When the mouthpieces do, though, it's gratifying to read both the article and rending of garments in the comments sections.
Rolling Stone: Yikes! New Behind-the-Scenes Book Brutalizes the Clinton Campaign
New York Magazine: Why Do Democrats Feel Sorry for Hillary Clinton?
Rolling Stone: Yikes! New Behind-the-Scenes Book Brutalizes the Clinton Campaign
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The real protagonist of this book is a Washington political establishment that has lost the ability to explain itself or its motives to people outside the Beltway.
In fact, it shines through in the book that the voters' need to understand why this or that person is running for office is viewed in Washington as little more than an annoying problem.
In the Clinton run, that problem became such a millstone around the neck of the campaign that staffers began to flirt with the idea of sharing the uninspiring truth with voters. Stumped for months by how to explain why their candidate wanted to be president, Clinton staffers began toying with the idea of seeing how "Because it's her turn" might fly as a public rallying cry.
New York Magazine: Why Do Democrats Feel Sorry for Hillary Clinton?
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I’ve done what I could in this space to avoid the subject of Hillary Clinton. I don’t want to be the perennial turd in the punchbowl. I’d hoped we’d finally seen the last of that name in public life — it’s been a long quarter of a century — and that we could all move on. Alas, no. Her daughter (angels and ministers of grace defend us) seems to be positioning herself for a political career. And Clinton herself duly emerged last week for a fawning, rapturous reception at the Women in the World conference in New York City. It simply amazes me the hold this family still has on the Democratic Party — and on liberals in general.
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 9:17 am
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:46 am to Ag Zwin
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The answer that came back was that Hillary wanted to do the interview with "Brianna." Palmieri took this to mean CNN's Brianna Keilar, and worked to set up the interview, which aired on July 7th of that year.
Unfortunately, Keilar was not particularly gentle in her conduct of the interview. Among other things, she asked Hillary questions like, "Would you vote for someone you didn't trust?" An aide describes Hillary as "staring daggers" at Keilar. Internally, the interview was viewed as a disaster.
It turns out now it was all a mistake. Hillary had not wanted Brianna Keilar as an interviewer, but Bianna Golodryga of Yahoo! News, an excellent interviewer in her own right, but also one who happens to be the spouse of longtime Clinton administration aide Peter Orszag.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:53 am to Ag Zwin
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In the Clinton run, that problem became such a millstone around the neck of the campaign that staffers began to flirt with the idea of sharing the uninspiring truth with voters. Stumped for months by how to explain why their candidate wanted to be president, Clinton staffers began toying with the idea of seeing how "Because it's her turn" might fly as a public rallying cry.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:59 am to Ag Zwin
Where were they when it mattered?
This reminds me of the book that F Chuck Todd wrote, which was somewhat critical of Obama. When was it published? One week AFTER Obama had won the last political campaign he would ever run.
This reminds me of the book that F Chuck Todd wrote, which was somewhat critical of Obama. When was it published? One week AFTER Obama had won the last political campaign he would ever run.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:06 am to Ag Zwin
Th NY Mag article segues into a couple of tangents. The last one has nice little nugget in it that will really get him banned from the club. Questioning a Clinton is starting to actually become fashionable, especially if you were a Bernie-bot. Going against the dogma, though? That's another issue altogether.
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Yet, today, Asian-Americans are among the most prosperous, well-educated, and successful ethnic groups in America. What gives? It couldn’t possibly be that they maintained solid two-parent family structures, had social networks that looked after one another, placed enormous emphasis on education and hard work, and thereby turned false, negative stereotypes into true, positive ones, could it? It couldn’t be that all whites are not racists or that the American dream still lives?
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:08 am to WhiskeyPapa
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Clinton staffers began toying with the idea of seeing how "Because it's her turn" might fly as a public rallying cry.
these people are fricking delusional
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:12 am to Ag Zwin
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In the general election, she was running against a malevolent buffoon with no political experience, with a deeply divided party behind him, and whose negatives were stratospheric. She outspent him by almost two-to-one. Her convention was far more impressive than his. The demographics favored her. And yet she still managed to lose!
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:13 am to SirWinston
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“But … but … but …” her deluded fans insist, “she won the popular vote!” But that’s precisely my point. Any candidate who can win the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes and still manage to lose the Electoral College by 304 to 227 is so profoundly incompetent, so miserably useless as a politician, she should be drummed out of the party under a welter of derision.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:14 am to Ag Zwin
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Th NY Mag article segues into a couple of tangents. The last one has nice little nugget in it that will really get him banned from the club. Questioning a Clinton is starting to actually become fashionable, especially if you were a Bernie-bot. Going against the dogma, though? That's another issue altogether.
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Yet, today, Asian-Americans are among the most prosperous, well-educated, and successful ethnic groups in America. What gives? It couldn’t possibly be that they maintained solid two-parent family structures, had social networks that looked after one another, placed enormous emphasis on education and hard work, and thereby turned false, negative stereotypes into true, positive ones, could it? It couldn’t be that all whites are not racists or that the American dream still lives?
This is the only rebuttal needed to prove that Americans are not racist - excluding a vanishingly small number of retards.
We fought a war with the Japanese. There are hundreds of thousands of Americans still alive today who lost fathers/brothers/uncles in that war - and some the result of the most inhumane tortures imaginable. Yet, today, all those atrocities are part of the past - not forgotten, but not a reason for continuing resentment. The reason?? the people themselves whose government/relatives were responsible for the atrocities and deaths have demonstrated themselves to be responsible, honest, reliable, productive individuals.
If only this could be transferred to some of the other 'but slavery' memes.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:15 am to Ag Zwin
April 21st 2017 the New York Times is not fake news.
Subject to change tomorrow.
Subject to change tomorrow.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:18 am to ChineseBandit58
The Japanese are brilliant - what a great culture and country.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:28 am to SirWinston
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The Japanese are brilliant - what a great culture and country.
I'm a big fan of Japan, too. Lived there for a while right out of grad school. Still one of my favorite places to visit.
That being said, they are still too deferential to age and hierarchy. Goes back to the Meiji Restoration and the breakup of class stratification. Worked with a company in the 90's that was our sales channel for the country. Got chummy with the guy widely expected to be the new president. He ended up not getting it because he was too young. He was 57.
"The nail that sticks up gets hammered down." One of the first phrases a gaijin learns.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:30 am to olddawg26
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April 21st 2017 the New York Times is not fake news.
Subject to change tomorrow.
Neither of the articles are New York Times, you idiot.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:36 am to SirWinston
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The Japanese are brilliant - what a great culture and country.
Somehow we were able to destroy the really horrible part of their culture without taking the great parts away. That might be the most amazing thing about WWII and the years after.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:50 am to BeefDawg
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Neither of the articles are New York Times, you idiot.
Mea culpa. Not his fault. My original thread title misidentified the Mag as NYT.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:51 am to Ag Zwin
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That being said, they are still too deferential to age and hierarchy. Goes back to the Meiji Restoration and the breakup of class stratification. Worked with a company in the 90's that was our sales channel for the country. Got chummy with the guy widely expected to be the new president. He ended up not getting it because he was too young. He was 57.
That's not a bad "negative" to have though. I get where you're coming from but you're rather a culture be too deferential to their elders than have total disregard for their elders.
My complaint is they're so weird about taking your rubbish with you - Tokyo probably has fewer rubbish bins than Daphne, Alabama. Not really a fan of carrying my Coke Light bottle around for 3 hours after I'm finished.
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 9:53 am
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:54 am to SirWinston
that about sums it up.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:01 am to Ag Zwin
Come on, Democrats, shout it out loud:
WE WANT CHELSEA! FOR THE USA! WE WANT CHELSEA! FOR THE USA! WE WANT CHELSEA ! FOR THE USA!
DOWN WITH DRUMPF! WE WANT CHELSEA !
DOWN WITH DRUMPF! WE WANT CHELSEA !
WE WANT CHELSEA! FOR THE USA! WE WANT CHELSEA! FOR THE USA! WE WANT CHELSEA ! FOR THE USA!
DOWN WITH DRUMPF! WE WANT CHELSEA !
DOWN WITH DRUMPF! WE WANT CHELSEA !
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:05 am to SirWinston
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My complaint is they're so weird about taking your rubbish with you - Tokyo probably has fewer rubbish bins than Daphne, Alabama. Not really a fan of carrying my Coke Light bottle around for 3 hours after I'm finished.
You weren't, like, walking around and drinking it at the same time, were you? What kind of barbarian are you?
There are bins at the vending machines. Buy Drink. Drink drink. Throw can away. Move on.
Wow. You must have gotten a lot of stares and nobody sitting by you on the train.
Posted on 4/21/17 at 10:35 am to SirWinston
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“But … but … but …” her deluded fans insist, “she won the popular vote!” But that’s precisely my point. Any candidate who can win the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes and still manage to lose the Electoral College by 304 to 227 is so profoundly incompetent, so miserably useless as a politician, she should be drummed out of the party under a welter of derision.
Ouch.
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