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From WaPo: A map of the world’s most and least racially tolerant countries

Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:26 pm
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:26 pm
Just a reminder that the America of today is one of the most tolerant places on earth. I know this is disappointing news to some of you.


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Here's what the data show:

• Anglo and Latin countries most tolerant. People in the survey were most likely to embrace a racially diverse neighbor in the United Kingdom and its Anglo former colonies (the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand) and in Latin America. The only real exceptions were oil-rich Venezuela, where income inequality sometimes breaks along racial lines, and the Dominican Republic, perhaps because of its adjacency to troubled Haiti. Scandinavian countries also scored high.

• India and Jordan by far the least tolerant. In only two of 81 surveyed countries, more than 40 percent of respondents said they would not want a neighbor of a different race. This included 43.5 percent of Indians and 51.4 percent of Jordanian. (Note: World Values’ data for Bangladesh and Hong Kong appear to have been inverted, with in fact only 28.3 and 26.8 percent, respectively, having indicated they would not want a neighbor of a different race. Please see correction at the bottom of this post.)

• Wide, interesting variation across Europe. Immigration and national identity are big, touchy issues in much of Europe, where racial make-ups are changing. Though you might expect the richer, better-educated Western European nations to be more tolerant than those in Eastern Europe, that's not exactly the case. France appeared to be one of the least racially tolerant countries on the continent, with 22.7 percent saying they didn't want a neighbor of another race. Former Soviet states such as Belarus and Latvia scored as more tolerant than much of Europe. Many in the Balkans, perhaps after years of ethnicity-tinged wars, expressed lower racial tolerance.

• The Middle East not so tolerant. Immigration is also a big issue in this region, particularly in Egypt and Saudi Arabia, which often absorb economic migrants from poorer neighbors.

• Racial tolerance low in diverse Asian countries. Nations such as Indonesia and the Philippines, where many racial groups often jockey for influence and have complicated histories with one another, showed more skepticism of diversity. This was also true, to a lesser extent, in China and Kyrgyzstan. There were similar trends in parts of sub-Saharan Africa.

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Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:28 pm to
I'm surprised to see that, out of all the Far Eastern countries, that Korea was the most "racist".
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:31 pm to
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I'm surprised to see that, out of all the Far Eastern countries, that Korea was the most "racist".
There are tons of Koreans here in L.A. so I knew about their racist attitudes. The one that was surprising to me was The Philippines. Racist AF it seems.

Philippines #6 on world's most racist nations list
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 9:34 pm
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:33 pm to
In reality, this study more reflects cultural norms professing tolerance than it does actual tolerance, I think. We live in a society where it is not okay to say, "I don't want a white/black/Hispanic/Asian/whatever as a neighbor", and so even if someone actually feels that way, they are not likely to be truthful.
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:34 pm to
None of what you said is supported by the data. That's all in your head.
Posted by TexasTiger80
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:36 pm to
India is the highest percentage? WTF???
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 9:36 pm
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:36 pm to
From the article:

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Before we dive into the data, a couple of caveats. First, it's entirely likely that some people lied when answering this question; it would be surprising if they hadn't. But the operative question, unanswerable, is whether people in certain countries were more or less likely to answer the question honestly. For example, while the data suggest that Swedes are more racially tolerant than Finns, it's possible that the two groups are equally tolerant but that Finns are just more honest. The willingness to state such a preference out loud, though, might be an indicator of racial attitudes in itself. Second, the survey is not conducted every year; some of the results are very recent and some are several years old, so we're assuming the results are static, which might not be the case.


ETA: I will add that I think America is the most racially tolerant country, due to our founding mythology, immigration, and relative freedom. I just don't think that people are all that honest about answering such questions, and instead say what they are supposed to say.
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 9:40 pm
Posted by MikeyFL
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:37 pm to
This map is generous to most of the world.

For example, I can guarantee that 90% of the people living in China would say "hell no" to an Indian or Korean neighbor. That 15% to 19% represents the number of Chinese who think the surveyor was referring to the future neighbors being a member of the UK royal family.
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:38 pm to
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

From the article:

quote:
Before we dive into the data, a couple of caveats. First, it's entirely likely that some people lied when answering this question; it would be surprising if they hadn't. But the operative question, unanswerable, is whether people in certain countries were more or less likely to answer the question honestly. For example, while the data suggest that Swedes are more racially tolerant than Finns, it's possible that the two groups are equally tolerant but that Finns are just more honest. The willingness to state such a preference out loud, though, might be an indicator of racial attitudes in itself. Second, the survey is not conducted every year; some of the results are very recent and some are several years old, so we're assuming the results are static, which might not be the case.

That applies equally to all nations., not just the USA.

I'm curious, how many countries have you lived in outside the US and for how long?
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:41 pm to
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I'm curious, how many countries have you lived in outside the US and for how long?



You are under the impression that I am arguing against the claim that the United States is not a tolerant nation relevant to the rest of the world. That is not the case. I'm just saying this data is unreliable.

I have never permanently lived outside of the US but I have traveled to several dozen countries.
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:42 pm to
I hear what you're saying. My point is that whatever flaws the survey might have, they seems to be equally applicalble to all nations in the survey.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:42 pm to
Try walking around anywhere in sub Saharan Africa as a non-black.

Without a guard you’re about 10 minutes from being robbed and murdered. That’s probably generous.

Source: I’m the only one of my dept that hasn’t had to go to Africa. I’m trying to avoid it.
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:44 pm to
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Try walking around anywhere in sub Saharan Africa as a non-black.
My wife's sister and her husband were missionairies in Nigeria, and then Senegal. They have some horror stories, especially the mom and the daughter.
Posted by MikeyFL
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:46 pm to
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The one that was surprising to me was The Philippines. Racist AF it seems.


They are - but it goes both ways. If you're a white person in the Philippines, you're treated like a God by much of the population.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

Just a reminder that the America of today is one of the most tolerant places on earth. I know this is disappointing news to some of you


Charleze is shocked!
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

They are - but it goes both ways. If you're a white person in the Philippines, you're treated like a God by much of the population.
Interesting. I know tons of Filipinos here in Los Angeles and I gotta say I have found them to be very sweet people. Anecdotal I know, but that has been my experience.
Posted by griswold
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:49 pm to
This is not possible. We have BLM, Antifa, Democrats and 90% of the MSM saying the opposite.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

They are - but it goes both ways. If you're a white person in the Philippines, you're treated like a God by much of the population.



Try going to rural India if you're lily white. You will get followed around and benevolently harassed like you can perform miracles.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:59 pm to
I am sure they will retract this at some point.
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