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For Those of You Who Are Pro-Open Borders, Sell Me On Why

Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:26 pm
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:26 pm
I had asked another poster here to give me his best case for being for open borders, but he hasn't responded yet. Can't call out a particular poster, so this is for anybody here who is basically in favor of an open border policy.

What's your rationale?
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:31 pm to
Besides the economic benefits, it will decrease the number of illegal immigrants in the US.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:32 pm to
I'm in the middle of my commute home and have some shite to do tonight but once I have time I'll check back in and bump this thread if it's dead.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259909 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:33 pm to
The argument for is growing the econony.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

The argument for is growing the econony.


Obviously.

And let's not forget keeping jobs on American soil rather than outsourcing them to other nations.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69250 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:34 pm to
Cheaper labor= higher economic output= lower prices
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22157 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:35 pm to
Mental retardation
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:39 pm to
Who is for "open borders"?

No one here advocates for that. Libertarian economists sometimes do, but that's about it.

When I see someone use "open borders," I know they are pushing propaganda.

Not wanting to deport everyone doesn't mean that people advocate for open borders.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

Cheaper labor= higher economic output= lower prices



The problem is when you flood the labor supply in a macro sense, everyone's wages go down except those doing the employing of the illegals.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:41 pm to
I wish the US would have Gestapo style task forces that deport the shite out of people. And I'm talking way more aggressive and proactive than ICE.
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 7:43 pm
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:43 pm to
I'm for a pre 1960 border policy.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

I'm in the middle of my commute home and have some shite to do tonight but once I have time I'll check back in and bump this thread if it's dead


Fair enough.


Post that illustration you posted yesterday, I don't agree with it, but it's kind of cool.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:44 pm to
Hi kct. I volunteer to answer for our would-be global masters over at the WTO.

If your objective is unification of north America it makes perfect sense.
So did obamas urge for us to learn spanish.


This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 7:46 pm
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

Who is for "open borders"? 

No one here advocates for that


I think losh does. I didn't call him out, but he's weighed in now. He can tell us if my assessment of what he posted yesterday meant he is for open borders.

Seemed that way to me.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24572 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:47 pm to
I ain't learnin no espanyol if they come here they better learn how to speak American
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:49 pm to
Yes dear. Tell grandma it will ward off senility to learn a new language.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34603 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:51 pm to
Because, dammit, we NEED more illiteracy, disease and crime in this country!

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69250 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:53 pm to
There is no evidence that immigration lowers wages. It doesn't make economic sense, either. The story you're trying to sell is that immigration shifts supply curves right, while keeping demand the same, thus lowering equilibrium wages. That's an incomplete story.

Lower wages per unit allow for greater TOTAL aggregate income, which leads to increase in demand for goods, thus an increase in demand for labor to supply the goods
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

Yes dear. Tell grandma it will ward off senility to learn a new language.


I'd rather learn Mandarin. If a Westerner can speak Mandarin, they're treated like a rock star in China.

Look how crazy they were over Arabella.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125394 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

Sell Me On Why


And who the hell are you?

O that's right the board attention whore, who needs this place to up their self esteem.
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