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re: First human ancestors came from Europe not Africa 7.2 million-year-old fossils indicate
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:30 pm to DawgfaninCa
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:30 pm to DawgfaninCa
Sounds as plausible as sea serpents in San Fran Bay.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The idea that humans originated in sub-saharan africa and spread from there never made much sense to me. The sahara desert is nearly the size of the united states. No primitive people were crossing that desert to populate other lands. They would have been cooked and died.
1. the article is about beings that lived 7 million years ago.
nothing you would call human lived until a few hundred thousand years ago, probaby not even that. Neanderthals and the Denisovans were afoot.
if you look at the research closely, you do not see what you would call humans, several hundred thousand years ago. 1/3rd sized brains, for instance.
there were MANY hominids.
2. as for your climate issue, climate changed many times over the millions of years, as cycles like the movement of the Milky way, and within our galaxy changed too. Sun around the galaxy every 26,000, right?
the saraha probably did not appear until recently.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:34 pm to cwill
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The idea that humans originated in sub-saharan africa and spread from there never made much sense to me. The sahara desert is nearly the size of the united states. No primitive people were crossing that desert to populate other lands. They would have been cooked and died.
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But they could cross it heading south?
Did you read the article I linked to in my OP?
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:35 pm to TrueTiger
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Is there a theory of de-evolution?
Idiocracy?
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:38 pm to Texas Weazel
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They would have been cooked and died.
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You'd be surprised at how well our ancestors were able to adapt and thrive in different environments.
Isn't adaptation a major reason for the different racial traits?
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:41 pm to mauser
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And if they find an older one in North Dakota or maybe Bolivia they will say we emerged from there.
We'll cross that land bridge when we get to it.
In the meantime...
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:43 pm to LPTReb
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Is there a theory of de-evolution?
there were 6 or 10 dead ends. teeny beings off the coast of Sumatra.
volcano Mt Toba put so much particulate matter in the sky that all but 5 or 6 thousand human couples of humans survived. DNA trails lead back to then.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:45 pm to kingbob
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The Sahara was not desert until fairly recently geologically. It was grassland during the last ice age and for a while afterwards. Desertification did not become widespread until the early Egyptian civilizations had begun building mud brick mastabas. In fact, there was still enough water to traverse the Sahara on horseback as recent as the Roman wars with Carthage.
Not according to most scientists.
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Before the great desert was born, North Africa had a moister, semiarid climate. A few lines of evidence, including ancient dune deposits found in Chad, had hinted that the arid Sahara may have existed at least 7 million years ago. But without a mechanism to explain how it emerged, few scientists thought that the desert we see today could really be that old. Instead, most scientists argue that the Sahara took shape just 2 to 3 million years ago. Terrestrial and marine evidence suggest that North Africa underwent a period of drying at that time, when the Northern Hemisphere started its most recent cycle of glaciation.
LINK
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:46 pm to DawgfaninCa
All cool stuff. Sure fossilized but hope we can get some DNA. Location of our genealogical Eve could shift a bit.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:50 pm to CelticDog
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the saraha probably did not appear until recently.
Not according to most scientists.
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Before the great desert was born, North Africa had a moister, semiarid climate. A few lines of evidence, including ancient dune deposits found in Chad, had hinted that the arid Sahara may have existed at least 7 million years ago. But without a mechanism to explain how it emerged, few scientists thought that the desert we see today could really be that old. Instead, most scientists argue that the Sahara took shape just 2 to 3 million years ago. Terrestrial and marine evidence suggest that North Africa underwent a period of drying at that time, when the Northern Hemisphere started its most recent cycle of glaciation.
LINK
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:50 pm to DawgfaninCa
Not a bad looking dude. I have a feeling these hominids invented a crude form of baseball
Posted on 5/23/17 at 6:54 pm to DawgfaninCa
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DawgfaninCa
LINK
"However, the findings in no way call into question that our species, Homo sapiens, first appeared in Africa about 200,000 years ago and later migrated to other parts of the world, the researchers said.
“Our species evolved in Africa. Our lineage may not have,” said paleoanthropologist Madelaine Böhme of Germany’s University of Tübingen."
i know you really want humans to be european because it somehow further justifies us white guys are the best!...but that's dumb as shite...as usual with you
Posted on 5/23/17 at 7:12 pm to Machine
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"However, the findings in no way call into question that our species, Homo sapiens, first appeared in Africa about 200,000 years ago and later migrated to other parts of the world, the researchers said.
“Our species evolved in Africa. Our lineage may not have,” said paleoanthropologist Madelaine Böhme of Germany’s University of Tübingen."
i know you really want humans to be european because it somehow further justifies us white guys are the best!...but that's dumb as shite...as usual with you
The article also says:
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Previously, scientists had thought hominins and chimps split between seven and five million years ago, with the first in the hominin line emerging in Africa. But these fossils, scientists say, tell a different story about the onset of human evolution.
Both fossils—a lower jaw and an upper premolar—were examined using state-of-the-art computer tomography, allowing the scientists to look at their internal structures.
Their findings showed the teeth are fused in a way that is characteristic of early humans, including Ardipithecus and Australopithecus, the latter of which the famous Lucy fossil belongs to.
I know you call me a racist because I dare to post an article about some fossils which may eventually prove our ancestors came out of Europe not Africa but all you are doing is proving you are biased and that you refuse to examine any evidence which may prove the OOA theory is incorrect.
Whereas, I am willing to examine any evidence that leads me to the truth no matter where that path to the truth ends.
This post was edited on 5/23/17 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 5/23/17 at 7:21 pm to cwill
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Sounds as plausible as sea serpents in San Fran Bay.
Since I know for a fact that sea serpents occasionally enter San Francisco Bay...
Posted on 5/23/17 at 7:25 pm to Machine
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i know you really want humans to be european because it somehow further justifies us white guys are the best!.
Your precious little OOA theory is starting to crumble.
louis farrakan is not gonna be happy.
I may be a kang after all.
This man, Bruce R Fenton, is now suggesting that the orgins of man may be of the Australasia area.
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The Out of Africa Theory of human evolution currently dominates palaeoanthropology and evolutionary biology, promoted with such firm conviction that there is a sense this model must be fact rather than theory. During several years of detailed research, independent archaeological researcher, Bruce R. Fenton, has compiled a wealth of contrary evidence sufficient to form a compelling case for his new evolutionary hypothesis. It is his finding that Homo sapiens evolved first in Australasia, and hundreds of thousands of years before the traditional dating offered by most academics.
LINK
Fenton is continually backing up his findings with the latest research:
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Genomic research at the Sima de los Huesos archaeological site and analysis of European fossils has invalidated the only Potential African hominin ancestor for Modern Humans, Homo heidelbergensis.
Fenton recently came out with The Forgotten Exodus: The Into Africa Theory of Human Evolution which is starting to make the scientific community reevaluate the OOA theory.
LINK
Posted on 5/23/17 at 7:33 pm to Dave Worth
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Just that millions of years ago the climate was very different in varied places.
They must have been burning the frick out of some fossil fuels back then, driving nothing but monster trucks and SUVs.
Posted on 5/23/17 at 7:56 pm to ScoopAndScore
If this is the case, why are most apes, gorillas, etc. are in Africa?
Posted on 5/23/17 at 9:30 pm to DawgfaninCa
I wasn't responding to you bob.
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