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Final Report - Select Investigative Panel - Fetal Tissue Related
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:32 pm
PDF Link of report - Planned Parenthood related
Read the Executive Summaries first...
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Quoting is out of order....
Let us all be mad at this.
Read the Executive Summaries first...
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David Daleiden, an investigative journalist, released undercover videos beginning in July 2015, recorded while posing as the head of a company interested in the fetal tissue procurement business.
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Multiple clips show abortion providers and executives admitting that their fetal tissue procurement agreements are profitable for clinics and help keep their bottom line healthy.
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Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA) also revealed that they intentionally had not set a policy about “remuneration” for fetal tissue because “the headlines would be a disaster.” While the organization’s executives told affiliates to “think, ‘New York Times headline’” if this went badly, at the end of the day, they thought “[selling fetal tissue] is a good idea.”
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The Panel referred DVB’s potential violations of the California Revenue and Tax Code to the Orange County District Attorney. The Panel referred DVB’s potential violation of Title U.S.C. § 289g-2 to the United States Department of Justice
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Conclusion In over 100 years of unrestricted research, fetal tissue has not proven to be useful for treating human disease. In contrast, although stem and progenitor cells from non-fetal tissues have only recently been discovered, they have rapidly yielded clinical treatments with proven benefit to patients. The alarmist claims that restrictions on human fetal tissue research would somehow delay or prevent the development of cures are entirely unfounded.
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1) The Panel learned that StemExpress and certain abortion clinics may have violated the HIPAA privacy rights of vulnerable women for the sole purpose of increasing the harvesting of fetal tissue to make money. Referred to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
2) The Panel uncovered evidence showing that StemExpress may have violated federal regulations governing Institutional Review Boards (IRBs). Referred to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
3) The Panel discovered that the University of New Mexico may have been violating its state’s Anatomical Gift Act by receiving tissue from a late-term abortion clinic (Southwestern Women’s Options). Referred to the Attorney General of New Mexico.
4 & 5) The Panel conducted a forensic accounting analysis of StemExpress’ limited production
and determined that it may have been profiting from the sale of baby body parts. Referral sent to
El Dorado, California District Attorney, and the U.S. Department of Justice
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7) The Panel discovered that DV Biologics, another tissue procurement company, may have been
profiting from the sale of fetal tissue, and was not collecting California sales tax from purchasers
of the baby body parts. The Orange County District Attorney has filed a lawsuit and the Panel
sent a supplemental referral.
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10) The Panel learned that Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast may have violated both Texas law and U.S. law when it sold fetal tissue to the University of Texas. Referred to the Texas Attorney General.
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The allegations include eyewitness accounts of the doctor killing infants who show signs of life both when partially outside the birth canal, in violation of the PartialBirth Abortion Ban Act, and after they are completely outside the birth canal, in violation of the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act and Texas murder statutes. Referred to the Texas Attorney General, and the U.S. Department of Justice.
Quoting is out of order....
Let us all be mad at this.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:11 pm to Junky
Terrible stuff. Planned Parenthood and other abortion/fetal body parts harvesting clinics are truly evil, and now shown to be criminal. I wonder if a RICO case can be built to prosecute these organizations.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 6:55 pm to Junky
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In over 100 years of unrestricted clinical research, human fetal tissue has
failed to provide a single medical treatment: Human fetal tissue is used for only
0.01% of the over 230 thousand FDA-approved clinical trials—and thus far, no
trials using human fetal tissue have reported positive results for patients.
We have been studying use of human fetal tissue for 100 years? Also it's laughable that they say the research has been unrestricted for that period of time. There are many states which outright ban stem cell research.
There is no way this statement can be true.
The first embryonic stem cells were harvested in 1981 and that was in mice let alone human.
The first Phase 1 clinical trial including embryonic stem cells was started in 2009. So no wonder there haven't been any drugs/ therapies to be used in humans.
This one paragraph is full of lies and misleading statements.
Edited to add: i'm not conding the ethics or behaviors of these abortion clinics. that's uncalled for, but stem cells will definitely have a use in medicine in my lifetime
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:15 pm to Junky
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Planned Parenthood claims it made no profit. The Panel, therefore, asked for accounting documents to prove this. Instead of turning over the records that could have proved them innocent, PPFA refused. Its lawyers wrote that “[t]he affiliates have each performed a good-faith accounting of their costs associated with facilitating fetal tissue donation, and have demonstrated conclusively that those costs exceeded the payments they received.” ?
“We didn’t profit because we say we didn’t profit” is not compliance with congressional requests for documents. Because Planned Parenthood refused to provide actual documents supporting their claim, the Panel resorted to analyzing accounting documents from middlemen companies who contracted with Planned Parenthood affiliates.
I am not totally informed on PP, but defund it already. Don't want to turn over your books? Then no more fed money. I do know there are other non-profits that will take up helping women to fill in the other rolls PP provides outside of abortions.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:17 pm to ctalati32
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but stem cells will definitely have a use in medicine in my lifetime
Do you make a distinction between embryonic stem cells and adult stem cells?
Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:40 pm to ctalati32
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The first Phase 1 clinical trial including embryonic stem cells was started in 2009. So no wonder there haven't been any drugs/ therapies to be used in humans.
bullshite. Bush was the first POTUS to allow federal funds for embryonic stem cell research in 2001.
President Bush Is The First President To Provide Federal Funding For Embryonic Stem Cell Research
In 2001, President Bush Set Forth A New Policy On Stem Cell Research That Struck A Balance Between The Needs Of Science And The Demands Of Conscience. In this new era, our challenge is to harness the power of science to ease human suffering without sanctioning practices that violate the dignity of human life.
When The President Took Office, There Was No Federal Funding For Human Embryonic Stem Cell Research.
Under The Policy Announced Five Years Ago, This Administration Became The First To Make Federal Funds Available For This Research. Federal funding was made available for research only on human embryonic stem cell lines derived from embryos that had been destroyed before the announcement of the President's policy. The Administration has made available more than $90 million for research on these lines, allowing important research to go forward without using taxpayer funds to encourage the further deliberate destruction of hum
Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:42 pm to Jimbeaux
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Do you make a distinction between embryonic stem cells and adult stem cells?
Exactly. All usable stem cell therapies have been derived from adult stem cells.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 8:11 pm to Junky
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Don't want to turn over your books? Then no more fed money. I do know there are other non-profits that will take up helping women to fill in the other rolls PP provides outside of abortions.
Agreed.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:05 am to Junky
Bump because it is still pissing me off
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:11 am to Dale51
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Exactly. All usable stem cell therapies have been derived from adult stem cells.
When Obama lifted the restriction, Tulane announced in its alumni magazine that they wouldn't be investing in embryonic because they were ineffective. That was purely a scientific judgment (especially since embryonic cells can come from morally neutral sources).
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:09 am to Jimbeaux
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I wonder if a RICO case can be built to prosecute these organizations
It should be. We have to start drawing lines in the sand and holding people accountable for their actions. This only confirms the swamp even more. Sadly, the resident libs won't comment on this report.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:55 pm to Jimbeaux
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but stem cells will definitely have a use in medicine in my lifetime
Do you make a distinction between embryonic stem cells and adult stem cells?
I think we should use adult stem cells when possible.
If there are embryos which otherwise would be discarded, I think I'm ok using those for research.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:57 pm to Dale51
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The first Phase 1 clinical trial including embryonic stem cells was started in 2009. So no wonder there haven't been any drugs/ therapies to be used in humans.
bullshite. Bush was the first POTUS to allow federal funds for embryonic stem cell research in 2001.
Work on your reading comprehension before you get all pissed off.
Stem Cell Research =/= Phase 1 clinical trial.
First you have to do research to understand how they work. Once you do that then you can try to come up with ways to use them therapeutically. Once you do that you have to get approval for a trial.
So the first Phase 1 clinical trial was started in 2009.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 4:02 pm to Junky
quote:This is complete ToddAkin level bullshite.
Fetal tissue is important for clinical trials.
False. In over 100 years of unrestricted clinical research, human fetal tissue has failed to provide a single medical treatment: Human fetal tissue is used for only 0.01% of the over 230 thousand FDA-approved clinical trials—and thus far, no trials using human fetal tissue have reported positive results for patients.
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