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Explain To Me How The Actions Of The MSM and The Left Today Will Help Dems In The Long Run

Posted on 5/18/17 at 4:44 pm
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50270 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 4:44 pm
I've stated here many times I'm a former Dem fanboy that turned IND in the 2010 time frame.

I've voted for more Dems in my life than I will ever vote IND or Rs. I'm responsible for the likes of Bill Clinton, Kip Holden, Mary Landrieu, Kathleen Blockhead, etc. It is a long list.

In 2008 I voted for Hilldawg in the primary because I worried what Obama would do if he won the White House with his radical associations.

By 2010 it was clear to me the Democrat Party, outside of the Presidential win in 2012, was in trouble due to the fact that it was going wwwaaaaaayyyyyy too far left.

Fast forward 7 years and 1100+ seats lost on the local, state, and federal level, the Democrat Party outside of NY and CA is in big trouble.

The fact that someone like Trump won the presidency only solidifies how bad things are, however, I still can't support the spineless Republicant's. It is impossible for me to do so.

So I have to wonder as I watch this assault on Trump on a daily basis: How will this help the Democrat Party? I would love to go back, but you see, I just can't.

As much as I can't stand Trump, Sessions, etc, I just can't see myself siding with the opposition that is there now. No way.

Watching the media do what it is doing now actually makes me appreciate having an R in the WH. Why? Because they will actually do their "job". Only problem is now, their job appears to be making up complete BS out of thin air in order to create narratives for their ilk to cry about.

You proggies can mock Trump's "approval ratings" all day with your polls that have already been shite on, but the problem is the mediums that promote this narrative you are spewing....well, guess what geniuses? Americans hate them even more than Trump. Check out Schumer's approval, Pelosi's approval, and then look at how the lying MSM is viewed. And because of this, I've grown to detest Democrats on the far left far more than I ever detested Replicant's. Believe me, like most former Proggies, I held a lot of hate in my heart for anything R.

As much as I hate Trump, this "Russians" thing is laughable to me. It is similar to "Hands up Don't Shoot" or "white Hispanic". You idiots on the FAR left are being used and you are STILL too stupid to realize it. Continuing to piss off average Americans with daily faux outrage and lies isn't going to help the party rebound at all....or am I missing something?

What am I missing?!?
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 4:48 pm to
Long run? It won't matter in 10 years, but it could help dems in the short run if Trump is found to have done something wrong.

If they find no dirty play, it could blow up in their faces.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5833 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 4:48 pm to
Winning seats in state houses, state senate, and governors right before the census.

They will be able to draw up and redistrict to help the Dems.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140352 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 4:49 pm to
They better hope Trump gets impeached or they look like the giant biased bitches they are.

Of course, their liberal viewers don't give a shite so it really won't hurt them.

It could fire up the R base AGAIN though.

ETA: This is a war of sorts.
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 4:50 pm
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28323 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 4:51 pm to
The Media Machine is nothing short of scary right now. And their process is obvious to any thing person but the sheer concerted blitzkreig of misinformation is stunning.

I've never seen anything like this in 20 years of following this stuff.
Posted by poops_at_parties
Member since Jan 2016
1545 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 4:51 pm to
They'd rather run against Mike Pence in 2020 than an incumbent Trump, who already beat the shite out of them. Pence represents every social issue that lost elections for Republicans since 2008, and right now that's a winning strategy for Democrats.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46031 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

Winning seats in state houses, state senate, and governors right before the census.

They will be able to draw up and redistrict to help the Dems.


quote:

Winning seats in state houses, state senate, and governors right before the census.

They will be able to draw up and redistrict to help the Dems.




So you got illegals voting Dim, you got folks voting multiple times, you're busing people in and giving them some carrot to vote Dim, that's not a enough so you want the gerrymander angle too? You Progs are too much.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41669 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 5:02 pm to
Brainwashing
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50270 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

Winning seats in state houses, state senate, and governors right before the census.


How?

This isn't happening, and the left is doubling down on the losing formula?

The Progs and the media have literally created an environment now where Americans are lying to them about their voting intentions out of fear of being assaulted either verbally, physically, or both.

Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50270 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

So you got illegals voting Dim, you got folks voting multiple times, you're busing people in and giving them some carrot to vote Dim, that's not a enough so you want the gerrymander angle too? You Progs are too much.


Yeah I replied and wasn't going to touch that point, but you are accurate there too.

They just don't get it. At all. It pisses me off so bad. They are too arrogant and stupid to realize what they are doing and just mock those who point it out.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140352 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 5:10 pm to
This might be worthy of it's own thread but...

Do you remember what Mica said about her duty was?

Since she said that, I wonder how many of the liberal media members agree with her but aren't stupid enough to say it out loud.

That's some scary shite.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50270 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

Do you remember what Mica said about her duty was?


Of course I do.

And when I was a tried and true Dem, I counted on the MSM to assist. It was the "given". Now those morons have come unhinged.

I remember this just like I remember Obama on a hot mic in 2012 telling one of Putin's baws "wait until I'm elected and I'll bend over for you real good".

Yet now it is "Russians".

Here is the problem with the left and MSM now: Americans have picked up on their projection. When a leftist says his enemy is doing something, you can be damn sure he is already doing said action.

Nothing is stopping this either. They are doubling and tripling down on it.
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 6:02 pm to
Look at his ratings In just 100 days. Plummeting fast. Think how much damage they can do to him in 4 years. I don't think it's as much about impeachment to the man as it is about wearing out the voters and him being unelectable in 2020.

You gotta figure Dems will run someone better than hrc. Anyone else and trump wouldn't be president. As this pace they could run Charles Manson in 2020 and he's likely beat trump.
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 6:04 pm to
Again, 2016 wasn't about trump being so great as much as hrc being that horrible. And she still won the popular vote handily. 40,000 votes in 3 states made the entire difference. That's a slim margain for trump.

They're just going to wear us all out and chip away over the next 4 years
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 6:23 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 7:57 am
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46031 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

Do you remember what Mica said about her duty was?



Mika Sleazinski, she is Joe's bobble head blond. Didn't she say the MSM/Dims would let the masses know what the MSM/Dims think they should know? (paraphrased).

Basically we the MSM/DIMS will filter all news and give you the complete rundown on all the relevant Prog/Dim talking points.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
GEAUX TIGERS!
Member since Sep 2007
6507 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

The fact that someone like Trump won the presidency only solidifies how bad things are, however, I still can't support the spineless Republicant's. It is impossible for me to do so.


I feel the same way. Independent but came from the R side. No offense but democrats are vile. Not the everyday ones, like on this board or most of the constituents, but the actual politicians. Pair them with the media & it is downright scary!

But to your entire post & points you have made:
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
4792 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:10 pm to
They're actually risking a lot, both the media and democrats. With all this hysteria, if Mueller comes back and says Trump is innocent, or even worse he uncovers something Dems did, the media and democrats will be a joke, granted many already think this, but many more will no longer consider them at all relevant
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5833 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:55 pm to
I didn't say I agree. I answered the question how this helps the Dems in the long run.
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