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re: Elon Musk slams Trump's NASA bill: It changes almost nothing for a manned mission to Mars

Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108180 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:36 pm to
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Yeah, you really "got me" with that complete strawman. You can put another check next to your "internet arguments won (against an imaginary opponent in my head)" tally. Wtf man? I'm ok with bombing ME schoolchildren?



The most common argument I hear against manned space projects is that we have too many problems down here to worry about that, and so we need to build up our military. The only rockets we create these days go to killing people (very often innocents) rather than using them to further ourselves as a species.

Will people die if we continue manned space exploration? It's a statistical certainty. But I'd much rather people lose their lives on that than something as horribly pointless as the War in Iraq.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108180 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:45 pm to
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We can do that without leaving the atmosphere if we're smart enough.


How? What if global warming is real? What if some mad man takes control of a country and lets the nukes fly? What if when Singularity hits it tries to kill us? What if the supervolcano under Yellowstone errupts? What if blight infests the planet where we starve ourselves to death? What if an asteroid hits the Earth? What if a nearby star goes Supernova and fricks with our solar system? What if a gamma ray burst hits our atmosphere destroying the ozone layer?

We need to be an interstellar as soon as humanly possible to prevent this, and Mars is the next step to achieving that.

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Besides, if we leave, we might miss Jesus' 2nd coming. Then what?



Go into a NASA boardroom, bring this up, and see what the response is.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140177 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:11 pm to
Beam me up Scotty.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:13 pm to
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"Serial entrepreneur"?


Sounds like the author of the article was pissed that he had to take a break from blowing Elon Musk to write it.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:30 pm to
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What if some mad man takes control of a country and lets the nukes fly?


Good examples:

Russia - Putin
USA - Trump
N Korea - Kim
Israel - NetinYahoo

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Go into a NASA boardroom, bring this up, and see what the response is.


You get me into the boardroom, I'll ask the question.

Oh by the way, you forgot what if the Sun runs out of energy and begins to expand? Of course the whole solar system goes with it. So why is it so important that our species survives? Nature was doing quite well before we evolved.



Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:51 pm to
Someone sounds jelly.

Someone who has taken billions in govt loans, grants, subsidies, and rebates

Sounds like his gravy train might be at risk
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108180 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:56 pm to
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you forgot what if the Sun runs out of energy and begins to expand?


We know for a fact that is over that is over a billion years from now, unless some alien force figures out a way to ignite it further. Not as big of a risk as the others I listed, but we clearly need to be out of her by the time that begins to happen.

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So why is it so important that our species survives?


When you put it that way, it makes everything we are as a species as irrelevant. I'd prefer for our species to reach for greater heights than any species that has come before or after it. Narcissistic, sure, but I would like to strive for this to be the case.

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Nature was doing quite well before we evolved.



Even if we manage to frick ourselves into extinction, nature will be fine. It will evolve into something else that will support life. The world has experienced worse things than us. I'd just like to live through it and not frick everything up for us personally.
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