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Educate me on Climate Change

Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:53 pm
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30855 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:53 pm
So my knowledge on this is basically limited to what you hear on the mainstream news.

For those who think climate change is not an issue or is not real or not a big deal can you explain why you feel this way and what information you have to back up your sentiments.

I'm MAGA big time, the environment is the one area where I lean liberal but I want to get better educated on this issue.

What ya got?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83939 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

So my knowledge on this is basically limited to what you hear on the mainstream news. 


You and Bill Nye have that in common.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120327 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:55 pm to
Climate change is real

Man probably has some effect on it

But man's effect on it is greatly exaggerated by people, many of whom have a vested stake in it
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28126 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:55 pm to
Wrong board
Posted by Shenanigans
Spring Hill, TN
Member since Nov 2012
2394 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:56 pm to
Climate change is real. Human impact on it is little to nonexistent.

Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45232 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:58 pm to
co2 is a pollutant
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:59 pm to
The sun penetrates our atmosphere and the rays get reflected back into space. The more co2 in the atmosphere the harder it is for the rays to escape back into space. So the heat sticks around more than it should and it warms the planet. It's called the Greenhouse Effect.

Most scientists say humans are to blame for increasing the co2.

Some say humans have little effect.

Some say humans do have an effect but the doomsday scenarios are greatly exaggerated.


I fall in the camp of the last one, that people are exaggerating the effects.

I think we should try to bring emissions down, but not go nuts with it where we hurt regular folks over it.
This post was edited on 3/2/17 at 9:00 pm
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45232 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:00 pm to
You have failed to explain why rising temperatures are a bad thing though.
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Member since Jul 2004
21135 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:03 pm to
All that smog you see in most industrial cities in China is not a big deal to the atmosphere. Here in Louisiana we are called cancer alley, not because of all the plants dumping waste into the river and releasing whatever is burning into our atmosphere but because of delicious seafood, right?

Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:04 pm to
Maybe you should go back to school, Billy Madison style.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19069 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

co2 is a pollutant

except to green plants. they love the stuff.
Posted by kcon70
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2016
2695 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:09 pm to
Just don't listen to anything related to Gore or Obama. Anyone they collaborate with should be ignored.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

You have failed to explain why rising temperatures are a bad thing though.
Like anything else, it will probably have both positive and negative consequences.

Of course, then the burden of proof for any intervention should not rely solely on the consideration of the negative consequences.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14864 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:18 pm to
1. Based on ice core data, the Earth has been cooling for the last 10,000 years There have been multiple fluctuations within the trend, including the last 140 years.

2. the 97% concensus number is fabricated and I have provided quotes from members of scientists that were counted in the 97% that say their work was misrepresented.

3. CO2 leading warming is theoretical only. Based on ice core data, temperature leads CO2 by 800-1000 years.

4. Data from NASA where heat was observed passing through the ceiling of the greenhouse showed far more heat actually escaping than even the most conservative models predict.

5. Hacked emails show there was a conspiracy among some scientists to mislead the public.

6. The words "the debate is over" is a huge red flag in relation to science

7. Based on ice core data, the last few hundred thousand years have been nothing but rapid, consistent climate change, much of which was far more drastic than the last 140 years.

This post was edited on 3/2/17 at 9:27 pm
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:20 pm to
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7. Based on ice core data, the last few hundred thousand years have been nothing but rapid
LINK
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15462 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:23 pm to
We're in a cold phase. Morons seem to think warming up at dime point is unexpected.

Few of any of the climate change chicken littles have ever bothered to read anything past the last 150 years or so.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9607 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

So my knowledge on this is basically limited to what you hear on the mainstream news.


So you think tigerdroppings is better than fox news?
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14864 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:31 pm to
Thanks for the cartoon. Here's a cartoon for you.

Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

So my knowledge on this is basically limited to what you hear on the mainstream news.

For those who think climate change is not an issue or is not real or not a big deal can you explain why you feel this way and what information you have to back up your sentiments.

I'm MAGA big time, the environment is the one area where I lean liberal but I want to get better educated on this issue.

What ya got?


Not to sound like a dick, but why come here for this question lol? This is a partisan political board and you are seeking clarity on an issue of science.

I feel like you would get much better results by:

- Finding some literature on the topic.

- Seeking out some scientific journals and looking at what the aggregate findings seem to say?

- Find academic lectures online

- Look for aggregate data from experts in the field?

- Look at international science reports or what other countries have concluded.

- If you want to be creative and doubt some of the climate community, you can look at how insurance companies or the military have researched and concluded about the topic. Since its effects and whether human activity is driving it are important for their respected fields.
This post was edited on 3/2/17 at 9:35 pm
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14864 posts
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:35 pm to
Dinosaurs and their SUVs have been fricking up the climate long before sapiens were a twinkle in erectus' eye
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