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Earth Day is next week

Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:15 pm
Earth Day 2017 will be next week. There will be lots of gloomy predictions especially since Trump is President.

Here is a long but interesting article about the first Earth Day held in 1970 and the predictions that the scientists had for the year 2000.

They were wrong.

LINK
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:18 pm to
They were also right. A lot.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:19 pm to
Name one.
Posted by AU_Right
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:20 pm to
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Name one.

Uhhh...climate changes?
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:27 pm to

It reads to me like their warnings to clean the air, land and water were heeded and helped reduce pollution.
Posted by bmy
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:28 pm to
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Name one


You're kidding.. coral reef bleaching? And hundreds of others. The article quoted a few scientists who made extreme predictions and built a straw man argument out of it.

Then it cites EPA statistics and credits advances in technology and wealth as one of the primary factors in pollution reduction.. ignoring the fact that the regulations are what drove the innovation. Regulations that exist because people were tired of corporations raping our natural resources to save a few dollars.

Terrible article and honestly I'm embarrassed for you because you took it hook line and sinker
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:32 pm to
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Uhhh...climate changes?


They were wrong. In the late 90s they said the world would kaput by 2010. They just keep pushing the decades back as they are wrong.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:35 pm to
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It reads to me like their warnings to clean the air, land and water were heeded and helped reduce pollution.


The EPA was created in 1970, the first Earth Day year. So, it's impossible to tell what would have happened had the EPA not been created. It's like Obama saying the world would have gone into a great depression had his economic policies not saved us.

Any predictions of air, land and water pollution disaster after the first earth day would be proof that the EPA doesn't work.

Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:36 pm to
The reef bleaching came true EXACTLY as predicted. Science fails, but in failing is improved. A failure in science shouldn't be considered a win for religious people, everyone should embrace it.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by Zach
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Member since May 2005
112410 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

You're kidding.. coral reef bleaching?

OMG. I had no idea that the coral reefs weren't feeling well. I don't give a shite if coral reefs exist. It's called nature.

quote:

Regulations that exist because people were tired of corporations raping our natural resources to save a few dollars. Terrible article and honestly I'm embarrassed for you because you took it hook line and sinker


I got news for ya, bud. It may shock you so sit down.

THERE ARE MORE SPECIES OF PLANTS AND ANIMALS THAT HAVE GONE TOTALLY EXTINCT THAN CURRENTLY EXIST.

And it all happened before industrialization. It's what the earth does.
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:39 pm to
It's sad that this issue is so politicized that people ignore facts.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:40 pm to
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Any predictions of air, land and water pollution disaster after the first earth day would be proof that the EPA doesn't work.


You realize this is why people think you're a moron right
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

THERE ARE MORE SPECIES OF PLANTS AND ANIMALS THAT HAVE GONE TOTALLY EXTINCT THAN CURRENTLY EXIST.


Think that might have something to do with the hundreds of millions of years of life on planet Earth? Does that mean we shouldn't do our best to protect the life that currently exists?
Posted by crewdepoo
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:41 pm to
I sure trump will eliminate the clean air act that day
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

THERE ARE MORE SPECIES OF PLANTS AND ANIMALS THAT HAVE GONE TOTALLY EXTINCT THAN CURRENTLY EXIST.

And it all happened before industrialization. It's what the earth does.




I don't think you said what you think you did.
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:43 pm to

Meh. Their predictions were overstated, but if the result is one 2017 car puts out 1/10th the pollution of a 1970 car I'll take it.
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:45 pm to
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Meh. Their predictions were overstated, but if the result is one 2017 car puts out 1/10th the pollution of a 1970 car I'll take it.



Yep. Regulations work. Undeniable fact. Sometimes they need to be revised or removed.. sometimes they need to be more stringent. All about balance.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:46 pm to
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OMG. I had no idea that the coral reefs weren't feeling well. I don't give a shite if coral reefs exist. It's called nature.


i assumed you were this ignorant but hadn't read much to prove it. Thanks
Posted by Zach
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Member since May 2005
112410 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:49 pm to
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You realize this is why people think you're a moron right


I'm sorry if you can't follow the logic. The EPA fixed Lake Erie and smog in LA. In 1972 they should have disbanded. There was plenty of case law for people to file suit for damages caused by polluters. But agencies never die. They expand.
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