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Doesn't it strike you as awfully coincidental? (Science vs Religious Belief)
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:08 am
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:08 am
Doesn't it strike you as awfully coincidental that every day people trust their lives to the product of science in almost every single aspect of modern human life......science gets them to work, feeds them and their children, allows them to post on internet forums, communicate across the world, live WELL beyond the average lifespan of 100 years ago...................yet, CONVENIENTLY the .0001 percent of cases where they DO NOT believe in science just HAPPENS to be the places where science disagrees with their religion and/or politics? Evolution is the standout, but I've often heard evangelicals state that global warming is offensive because its hubris to think that humans could destroy Gods creation. 
You take that kind of statistic data and remove political and religious connections from it and its obvious to a 2nd grader that the reason these people do not accept the science is not logic or reason, but bias and emotion.
You take that kind of statistic data and remove political and religious connections from it and its obvious to a 2nd grader that the reason these people do not accept the science is not logic or reason, but bias and emotion.
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:14 am to AUbused
Don't you find it coincidental that the very thing God created (man) created science?
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:15 am to AUbused
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global warming
I'm skeptical because of my respect for
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Science
and
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statistic data
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:16 am to AUbused
I don't know a single Christian who is anti science. Some accept evolution and some don't. Why not just allow them to believe what they chose to believe without ridicule?
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:16 am to AUbused
I find it funny that people get offended when other people don't agree with them about something silly like this. If they don't believe in evolution, so what? They're not hurting you.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:19 am to Jay Quest
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I don't know a single Christian who is anti science.
lol
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Some accept evolution and some don't.
That would be anti science
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Why not just allow them to believe what they chose to believe without ridicule?
Because people who don't believe in evolution are extremely stupid and deserve to be ridiculed.
If someone told you that they thought smoking was good for your health because of some religion you would probably ridicule them too.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:20 am to AUbused
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global warming is offensive because its hubris to think that humans could destroy Gods creation.
That is just stupid, I suppose they believe all out nuclear war would not make it hard to live on this planet.
I am a Christian but I don't think everything in the Bible, especially the Old Testament happened exactly like it was written. A lot of it is likely symbolic.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:21 am to AUbused
Science and Religion are coming together, AB. Read "The Holographic Universe"...then get back.
And if you do, you'll clearly see that there are just as many 'scientists' who willfully disregard PROVEN scientific evidence in service to their own (subjective) faith/belief...as there are (% wise) Religious folk. Extremes in both camps have been trying to undermine the *real* cred of the other.
It'll take time, and vision for both camps to produce an enlightened offspring.
BTW, I wrote a letter challenging blind-faith Religionistas (to my local paper) that when they get that Fred Sanford "big one" thumpin in their chest, and the 911 Emergency Meds arrive...they won't be directing them to a faith-based preacher...but a science-based doctor.
Got no responses.
Einstein nailed it with his science and religion/blind and lame quote.
And if you do, you'll clearly see that there are just as many 'scientists' who willfully disregard PROVEN scientific evidence in service to their own (subjective) faith/belief...as there are (% wise) Religious folk. Extremes in both camps have been trying to undermine the *real* cred of the other.
It'll take time, and vision for both camps to produce an enlightened offspring.
BTW, I wrote a letter challenging blind-faith Religionistas (to my local paper) that when they get that Fred Sanford "big one" thumpin in their chest, and the 911 Emergency Meds arrive...they won't be directing them to a faith-based preacher...but a science-based doctor.
Got no responses. Einstein nailed it with his science and religion/blind and lame quote.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:22 am to upgrayedd
Noone has really addressed the OP. The OP is a an observation regarding the situations in which people choose not to believe scientific consensus and the strong correlation with its conflicting with relgious belief. Flat-earth was the same thing.
What I find funny is how the majority of responses here act as if the OP was a pure attack filled with no content which is really just attacking the poster, not the argument.
What I find funny is how the majority of responses here act as if the OP was a pure attack filled with no content which is really just attacking the poster, not the argument.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 10:23 am
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:23 am to RCDfan1950
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Science and Religion are coming together,
I think it's more about religion realizing they have to acknowledge science if they want to be taken seriously
There is a reason the pope called the creation story a fable. Because no right minded person would believe it as a literal interpretation of the events.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:23 am to AUbused
And a lot of the liberal science lovers ignore inconvenient genetics.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:24 am to AUbused
Do you find it coincidental that some of the greatest scientist to ever live historically were believers?
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:27 am to Powerman
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Because people who don't believe in evolution are extremely stupid and deserve to be ridiculed.
Should a male that thinks its healthy and normal to root around another mans anus with his penis and tongue ( stupid activity) also deserve to be ridiculed?
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:27 am to AUbused
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I've often heard evangelicals state that global warming is offensive because its hubris to think that humans could destroy Gods creation
I think you're stretching this a bit. Most agree that we can and do affect the environment. The issue is scale. As science is showing us, the sun controls much more than we currently do as humans. And the most telling part for how environmentalist truly feel is when you say "ok so we control the temperature of the earth, what can we do to make it cooler/ideal temperature." then they get all defensive in that humans shouldn't do such a thing. Today's environmentalists want population control. Everything they do is to make it harder for people to live. The promote food for fuel which does more damage to the environment than oil or gas. They fight new technologies that bring less hazardous natural gas to the market.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:27 am to Powerman
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Because people who don't believe in evolution are extremely stupid
I would suspect there are many people in this world with IQ's that dwarf your own who believe in a creator.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:27 am to RCDfan1950
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Science and Religion are coming together
The newest PEW poll would seem to contradict this completely. Seems that among evangelicals the opposite is happening.
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And if you do, you'll clearly see that there are just as many 'scientists' who willfully disregard PROVEN scientific evidence in service to their own (subjective) faith/belief...as there are (% wise) Religious folk.
Im not sure if im reading this right, but if I am I have a very hard time believing that, given that 57 % of republicans reject evolution. Additionally, if im reading it right there would be a WHOLE lot of ways to manipulate such figures. Do you have anything you can link for this?
That being said, bias is universal. We're bias reinforcing search agent machines. E.g just look at the current state of news outlets.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:28 am to Revelator
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greatest scientist to ever live historically were believers
if they believed this, it would be like showing a cross to Dracula, alas they'd rather believe bullshite, like the global warming hoax
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:30 am to Powerman
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Because no right minded person would believe it as a literal interpretation of the events
Yet there are tens of thousands who reject specifically the science which runs counter to the literal interpretation. All after using their electric shaver, before driving to work in their combustable engine machine, on 60k mile rubber tires etc.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:31 am to AUbused
1- pretty much all we know in science today will be proven false, much like the flat earth theories
2- the more science evolves, the more it confirms the Bible
2- the more science evolves, the more it confirms the Bible
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:32 am to Powerman
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I think it's more about religion realizing they have to acknowledge science if they want to be taken seriously There is a reason the pope called the creation story a fable. Because no right minded person would believe it as a literal interpretation of the events.
It's largely been Religion - and the relative societal stability therein - that has paid for and enabled the scientific advance. Check out the ORIGINAL credos of some our most hallowed scientific colleges/institutions.
"Taken seriously"...is a stretch. Immortality - minus Love and Beauty (Spiritual in nature) - would be worthless without 'Religion'.
And the Aborgines weren't 'taken seriously' with their "dream time" bs...until the best Scientific minds ever produced by Humanity...got their evidence/*answer*. "the simple...confound the wise" (Scriptural). I love it.
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