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re: Does anybody here believe that Comey ever told Trump he wasn't under investigation?
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:30 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:30 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Weapons sales aren't necessarily illegal, but that's what was investigated. Turns out they kinda were.
Every single intelligence apparatus agreeing that Russia meddled in a US presidential election demands an investigation. I'm sorry we didn't just let it ride. And I'm really sorry if some dumbass members of Trump's team did some dumbass things. It's not like Trump himself didn't literally encourage the Russians to hack emails.
Every single intelligence apparatus agreeing that Russia meddled in a US presidential election demands an investigation. I'm sorry we didn't just let it ride. And I'm really sorry if some dumbass members of Trump's team did some dumbass things. It's not like Trump himself didn't literally encourage the Russians to hack emails.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:40 pm to JuiceTerry
You had it going good for a while. You are reverting to the hackish disingenuous stuff now. That guy sounds pretty sharp. Try to keep up with him without falling into your old ways. I'm rooting for you!
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:43 pm to JuiceTerry
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JuiceTerry
Could you at least attempt to be good at this debating thing?
Let me pick you apart, again.
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eapons sales aren't necessarily illegal,
They are when they are sold to a country that is under an embargo
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but that's what was investigated
once again you fricking moron, there was ZERO doubt that weapons were illegally sold to Iran. NONE that DID happen. So an investigation into the WHO began. and then investigations into the why, which ultimately led to the Contra part of the deal.
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Every single intelligence apparatus agreeing that Russia meddled in a US presidential election demands an investigation
I could simply laugh at your reliance in "every single intelligence apparatus" because after all what the frick would the coast guard investigative services know abut Russian meddling? But I won't. Instead I will point out that who cares as okay that's a national security investigation, not a criminal investigation and we have heard MULTIPLE times from MULTIPLE sources that there is ZERO evidence of any criminal wrong doing by Trump or anyone on his team in conjunction with that national security investigation, so what pray tell justifies opening a CRIMINAL investigation? The answer, obviously, is NOTHING. And guess what, there is no fricking criminal investigation into Trump or his campaign into Russian "meddling in our election , exactly as I have been saying for months.
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And I'm really sorry if some dumbass members of Trump's team did some dumbass things
Being a dumbass and or doing dumbass things isn't a crime and thus of no interest to either the FBI nor a special counsel
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It's not like Trump himself didn't literally encourage the Russians to hack emails.
Incorrect. He did encourage them to release them if they had them, jokingly but yes he did encourage that, he didn't encourage anyone to hack anything.
And again, encouraging someone to hack into a computer isn't a crime either, and thus of no interest to the FBI or a special counsel.
Now, if he had stood there and said "I will pay VLad $1M US to hack into Hillary's computer and steal her emails and then release them" then yes, under 18 USC 2 you could charge Trump just the same as if he had himself hacked into the server, but that isn't what happened, and it would be a stretch to pretend otherwise.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:46 pm to JuiceTerry
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Does anybody here believe that Comey ever told Trump he wasn't under investigation?
I can't say for sure, but it's totally believable.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:48 pm to Haughton99
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Simple question. How the hell do you know what evidence there is or isn't?
Because a former FBI Director, a Current acting FBI director, a former DNI , the current DNI, a fomer CIA Director, a current CIA Director, the former head of the NSA, 6 Congressman who sit on their intelligence oversight committe and 8 fricking Senators who do the same have all told us "THERE IS NO frickING EVIDENCE THAT ANYONE IN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN COMMITTED ANY frickING CRIMES IN REGARDS TO THE ELECTION"
I mean what the frick dude, do you need a burning bush to appear and tell you "there is no fricking evidence" before you understand?
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:50 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
Here you go - from yesterday. There's another link to a similar story from Fox News in my original post.
CBS News
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June 5, 2017
Special counsel's Russia probe includes criminal investigation involving Paul Manafort
WASHINGTON — The special counsel investigating possible ties between President Donald Trump's campaign and Russia's government has taken over a separate criminal probe involving former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, and may expand his inquiry to investigate the roles of the attorney general and deputy attorney general in the firing of FBI Director James Comey, The Associated Press has learned.
The Justice Department's criminal investigation into Manafort, who was forced to resign as Trump campaign chairman in August amid questions over his business dealings years ago in Ukraine, predated the 2016 election and the counterintelligence probe that in July began investigating possible collusion between Moscow and associates of Trump.
CBS News
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:51 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
False. You're spreading fake news.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:53 pm to JuiceTerry
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False. You're spreading fake news.
What fake news? Be specific.
So far i'm posting facts and you're posting nothing.
I mean if this was a baseball game they would called it for mercy before you even got the first out in the first inning.
It's a simple question.
what crime was committed that leads you to believe an investigation is warranted?
You can't answer that question, because you are simply a parrot. SQWUAK TRUMP BAD SQUAW LOCK HIM UP
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:55 pm to JuiceTerry
Yes I do
Why would I believe comey if he differs?
Nobody has ever said trump is under investigation
Funny libs banking on inspector clouseau
Why would I believe comey if he differs?
Nobody has ever said trump is under investigation
Funny libs banking on inspector clouseau
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:56 pm to gthog61
The funniest part is going to be when the Special Counsel takes another look at Hillary Clinton's actions. Which actually WERE crimes.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:58 pm to JuiceTerry
I believe Comey told him that he was not a target of any investigation.
That, of course, is always subject to change.
That, of course, is always subject to change.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:59 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
There's a difference in saying "there's no evidence of anything" and saying "we can't comment on any evidence regarding collusion at this time". Julian Castro, for one, has stated that the evidence he's seen personally could possibly lead to jail time for certain people.
Mueller is in charge now, anyway. The game has changed. Godspeed.
Mueller is in charge now, anyway. The game has changed. Godspeed.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:59 pm to JuiceTerry
Comey is an attention seeker that was terrible at his job, so who knows.
It's amazing how Comey has become the poster boy for the left, after you all were clamoring for his head back in November.
It's amazing how Comey has become the poster boy for the left, after you all were clamoring for his head back in November.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:01 pm to JuiceTerry
It would appear that he told Feinstein and Grassley that, so I would say it is not too far out of the realm of possibility that he told Trump that. But, as pointed out...it doesn't matter what we think.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:03 pm to JuiceTerry
I think it's likely he intimated Trump was not a target of any investigation.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:06 pm to JuiceTerry
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JuiceTerry
You need to take up a new hobby, something more suited to your ahem mental acumen , debating just isn't your thing. maybe coloring (by number of course)
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There's a difference in saying "there's no evidence of anything" and saying "we can't comment on any evidence regarding collusion at this time"
That is NOT what they have been saying. Even Diane Feinstein when asked point blank "any evidence of criminal wrong doing by Trump or anyone in his campaign?" answered "no"
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Julian Castro, for one, has stated that the evidence he's seen personally could possibly lead to jail time for certain people.
Link to that? He was probably talking about Hillary Clinton LOL
Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:06 pm to the808bass
Was that at the dinner he arranged with Trump so he could beg to keep his job? I guess we'll have to wait for the tapes.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:18 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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So, I will ask again, what crime was being investigated here that would lead to the Trump campaign doing something illegal RE: 2016 election? You , of course, can not answer that because no one has said.
No. No one has said publicly. From Jim Comey's Congressional testimony in March.
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Because it is an open ongoing investigation and is classified, I cannot say more about what we are doing and whose conduct we are examining. At the request of congressional leaders, we have taken the extraordinary step in coordination with the Department of Justice of briefing this Congress' leaders, including the leaders of this committee, in a classified setting in detail about the investigation but I can't go into those details here.
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But there have been published stories about Manafort's payments from Ukranian oligarchs with ties to Putin, Flynn's payments from Russian state television, Carter Page being offered brokerage fees in a deal with the Rosneft CEO.
Do you think that Congress doesn't know the alleged crimes?
Is there some law that crimes have to be publicly revealed when classified info is involved that I don't know about?
Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:49 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Because a former FBI Director, a Current acting FBI director, a former DNI , the current DNI, a fomer CIA Director, a current CIA Director, the former head of the NSA, 6 Congressman who sit on their intelligence oversight committe and 8 fricking Senators who do the same have all told us "THERE IS NO frickING EVIDENCE THAT ANYONE IN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN COMMITTED ANY frickING CRIMES IN REGARDS TO THE ELECTION"
I mean what the frick dude, do you need a burning bush to appear and tell you "there is no fricking evidence" before you understand?
You are shaping quotes from those people to mean what you want them to mean. It's really that simple. You may not actually realize that's what you are doing but you are.
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