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Did Kamala Harris and Joe start the Ukraine war?

Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:03 am
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37536 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:03 am
I listened to the full Tucker interview on Joe Rogan last night.

Tucker talks about how Harris got sent to the Munich security council and said Ukraine should join NATO when they don’t even qualify to be a member. Basically for the sole purpose of provoking a war

Now these politicians have met their need for blood and power because as he states most of them have the most depressing personal lives ever. They can finally get off on war
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10487 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:07 am to
Globalists.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12182 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:07 am to
Whatever Harris said I’m sure it was stupid and a total word salad.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30117 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:11 am to
IMO they did indeed “cause” the war, but by inaction as opposed to by intentional and direct action. They incubated the atmosphere for it beginning with the failed Afghanistan withdrawal. Again inaction there was the biggest culprit once again and the follow up outward appearance of incompetence planted the seed with Putin and Russia that there will never ever be any time better than this.

Putin gambled on the Biden administration being incapable of being proactive in the earliest stages of signs of war and being 2 behind where they needed to be at all times. So Putin took the shot and he was more or less exactly right in his predictions.

JMO, I have no “expertise” on the subject whatsoever.
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3906 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:12 am to
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Tucker talks about how


If that's why you think so, then the answer is no.

They started the Ukraine war in the sense that Russia would never have pulled this shite if someone who had some balls was in the WH. You can blame them for that.

But any idiot conspiracy theory from the huckster Tucker Carlson can be counted on beyond any reasonable doubt to be a steaming pile of nonsense that anyone with an IQ over 80 should be ashamed to take seriously.
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71460 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:13 am to
Yes this war started because of us and trying to get Ukraine nato membership
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58027 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:14 am to
I refuse to believe that American politicians would start a war for political advantage or financial gain!
(Sarcasm)
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20393 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:14 am to
If Biden and Harris started the war, they did it because they were told to. There is no way in hell either of them could have thought of it on their own.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15843 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:15 am to
One person started the war. The man who wants to regain the land lost during the collapse of USSR.

Blaming the war on Harris is asinine.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3906 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:17 am to
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Yes this war started because of us and trying to get Ukraine nato membership


Pretty much every POTUS from both parties (and every POTUS candidate, for that matter) since George W. Bush has encouraged Ukraine membership in NATO (except Trump, who took a combative posture toward NATO in general).

So if that's what did it, it took 20 years of trying before it happened.

And this is exactly why y'all need to stop listening to Idiot Carlson. He knows what I just posted.

He knows it's the equivalent of saying, "The (insert majority party) want to raise the debt ceiling! " Knowing that you don't pay enough attention to notice that WHOEVER the majority party is ALWAYS votes to raise the debt ceiling because they know they have to, and whoever the minority party is always takes the opportunity to blast them for it.

Because they know how easily manipulated y'all are.

So does Carlson.

He is the worst kind of charlatan. He knows he's feeding ya'll constant bullshite. And he knows y'all will eat it up. And he laughs all the way to the bank.
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 10:23 am
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7723 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:24 am to
It was Obama, Biden and their people, and the beginnings go back more than 10 years.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3906 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:29 am to
quote:

It was Obama, Biden and their people, and the beginnings go back more than 10 years.


Nope.

George W. Bush.

And every POTUS candidate and POTUS since. Except Trump.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36047 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:36 am to
No
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7723 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:45 am to
quote:

George W. Bush.


Nah, it really started later. Obama planted the seeds for what we are dealing with today.
Posted by Geronimo
Member since May 2023
394 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:17 am to
It was Obama and this evil bitch

Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13996 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:52 am to
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Whatever Harris said I’m sure it was stupid and a total word salad.

That ignorant whore can barely start a microwave, much less a war.

Regardless of who was in the White House, this war was always going to happen.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53400 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:56 am to
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30682 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:13 pm to
Interesting.

My left leaning buddy tells me Putin was going to invade regardless and it's because he needs money.
Posted by chili pup
Member since Sep 2011
2461 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Did Kamala Harris and Joe start the Ukraine war?



Joe probably did.

Kamala couldn't start a fire.
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 2:00 pm
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7580 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:24 pm to
No. War was preordained. They are only useful idiots.
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