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re: democrats at conference caught on tape laughing about rising white suicide rates

Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:35 pm to
How much more context do you need? It was a dumb thing to say but I will move on with my life. People are dumb sometimes.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25342 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:35 pm to
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Dems speaker celebrates increase in white male suicides; crowd cheers


Doesn't shock me in the least. I know that some people hate that I exist. I know some people assume the worst even if they don't know me or where I come from.

I may not be a republican but I am not about to vote for an intolerant, fem-nazi Democrat.
Posted by Bullethead88
Half way between LSU and Tulane
Member since Dec 2009
4202 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:37 pm to
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The guy said it the crowd laughed. There's no way to defend that but please keep trying. It's hilarious.

I'm not defending what the guy said. I'm saying that taking that out of context so that it can be made part of the Democrats hate Republicans (and, of course, Republicans hate Democrats) public discussion is bullsh!t.

Let me ask you. Do you think that guy was seriously espousing the hope that the suicide rate for white males would continue to increase?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260337 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:38 pm to
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My take on it is that the video should not be edited to show on ly parts of what the guy said especially to cuy him off in the middle of a thought.


Always the victim
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38773 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:39 pm to
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Let me ask you. Do you think that guy was seriously espousing the hope that the suicide rate for white males would continue to increase?


If it meant they could push their idealogy across the finish line honestly yes.

I get what you are saying I think. Sadly media as a whole is shite, and this is what they do. We both can agree to not like it.

That said this seemed to cross a line and I don't see how context could save it.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:40 pm to
SOB should make example by starting with himself.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:40 pm to
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My take on it is that the video should not be edited to show on ly parts of what the guy said especially to cuy him off in the middle of a thought.



You didn't watch it, then. He was not cut off in the middle of a thought. (Did he even have one) The last thing he said was, "We shouldn't be discussing this in public."
Had he said something that was not offensive, why would someone else call him out on it...then as the Democratic Party said in their news Release "and took the mic again to apologize," In other words, he finished, sat down, then when called out on it, got back up and took the mic again. If he did nothing wrong, why did he feel the need to apologize..ONLY AFTER HE WAS CALLED ON IT?

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My take is that the tape should not be edited so that Carlson (or others) can use it to further drum up more animosity between the sides than would or should otherwise exist.




Because what he said really was not offensive, and everyone didn't really laugh? You're going to get dizzy with all that spinning you are doing.

He was wrong. You would be doing yourself a favor if you simply said, "The guy is a jerk, and he was wrong to say it. He does not reflect the views of most Democrats."
Instead you try to spin it that it was edited, and he did nothing wrong? Why the apology? Why was he called out on his words by another Democrat? The Democrat that called him out on his words was the only one at the event with any integrity.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:41 pm to
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Let me ask you. Do you think that guy was seriously espousing the hope that the suicide rate for white males would continue to increase



Yes, that's exactly what that piece of shite was doing. He was making a joke of it. The crowd laughed, they laughed because they are twisted too. What part of this don't you understand? You and people like you turn my stomach. The sooner we rid this country of the cancer that is the left the better we'll all be.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:47 pm to
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This was an event that was sponsored by the Democratic Party. Not a Message Board. I guess by your response, that you see nothing wrong with it?

Again. It was sponsored by the Party you identify with. ONE person objected to it. One. Well, more objected to it once it was made public. Had this video not become public only one person would have objected to it. That said, I would find it hard to believe that this was the only video made at this gathering.

Seems like the Democrats would make the entire video public to give some perspective. Or maybe they just don't want to discuss this in public?






Though thanks for proving my thesis in real-time.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Bullethead88
Half way between LSU and Tulane
Member since Dec 2009
4202 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:52 pm to
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The sooner we rid this country of the cancer that is the left the better we'll all be.

So I take it that you hope that the suicide rate for all Democrats goes up, too?

Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38773 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:57 pm to
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So I take it that you hope that the suicide rate for all Democrats goes up, too? 


All colors though not a racist lol
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10246 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 3:57 pm to
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How any straight white male can openly support a party that is hostile to them is beyond me


They are on the dole.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 4:02 pm to
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Though thanks for proving my thesis in real-time.


Do tell. Explain the point to me, then. I can hardly wait to be enlightened.

ETA
You tried to equate drivel on a message board by trolls to a Democratic sponsored event. If you can't see the difference, then you are the one missing the point.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 4:05 pm
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 4:05 pm to
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So I take it that you hope that the suicide rate for all Democrats goes up, too


Absolutely not, I don't want that trash to get off that easily. Tried and hanged is more like it.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 4:16 pm to
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Do tell. Explain the point to me, then. I can hardly wait to be enlightened.


That's what the initial post was for...

If you can't see how what you posted, which from the opening sentence attempted to frame the conversation around value judgements, moral failings, and group caricaturing, I am not sure what repeating myself will do?

Lets try this, lets concede all of what you say is true, what now? What was the purpose? What does this incident prove to you? Why is proving this to be the correct narrative important to you? What does that achieve?
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 6:59 pm to
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Altered States of America on full display. Delusional people are beyond help, we might as well admit it.



I mean Paul Lepage is their Governor, I can't see how this-- even if its not edited-- approaches most of the shite he's said, so I don't see why Mainers would care.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 7:04 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64322 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 7:02 pm to
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Idk, if they believe in fairness, justice, more whites offing themselves and equality?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 7:28 pm to
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Triggered.




self-loathing vermin

How pathetic do you have to be to be white and support this?

You are Pavlov's dog in human form.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 7:29 pm to
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I mean Paul Lepage is their Governor, I can't see how this-- even if its not edited-- approaches most of the shite he's said, so I don't see why Mainers would care.



more vermin

Are you a self-loathing white peron or a racist something else?

What the frick difference does wht anybody else said have to do with how disgusting and reprehensible this is? You people are fricking sick.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20373 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 7:57 pm to
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How any straight white male can openly support a party that is hostile to them is beyond me

The message being sent is repulsive;

but rather than abandoning the Democratic party (and the 2 party system), I'd rather that sane minds reclaim that party. We need plurality for this country to be great.

I suppose a viable alternative party could be an option; offhand, does anyone know what happened to cause the Whigs to dissolve as a factor? I'm not saying restore the Whigs, I'm asking how did their leverage transfer over to another party? We may need to push something like that again.
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