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Democrat now leading the charge to eliminate Film Credits in La.

Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:00 pm
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:00 pm
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"How can we subsidize rich movie stars when we can't fund TOPS?" said Luneau, D-Alexandria, a member of the Senate Revenue and Fiscal Affairs Committee that crafts tax policy. "Is it just because it's cool to see Tom Cruise in Baton Rouge at an LSU game?


It's really that simple, but I doubt he gets much supports. It seems Dardenne, Edwards and others in the legislature like the status quo.

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The film industry is fighting back of course, and they always play the tourist card as if tourist never came to New Orleans or La. until the Film Tax Credit went into effect.

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He cited an industry-sponsored survey showing more than 14 percent of tourists visit New Orleans because of something they've seen on TV or in the movies


Of course the film guys don't tell you that the tourists may have seen Street Car Named Desire, The Cincinatti Kid, or another pre 2002 film which attracted them to our state.

The truth is La. and in particular has been a tourist magnet pre Katrina and again now that things are returning to normal. The movie industry didn't make it so.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:04 pm to
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Of course the film guys don't tell you that the tourists may have seen Street Car Named Desire, The Cincinatti Kid, or another pre 2002 film which attracted them to our state.



Yeah cause those movies are just burning up the Netflix what's hot list...
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:07 pm to
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Democrat now leading the charge to eliminate Film Credits in La.



I don't care who actually gets rid of it at all as long as the welfare scam for the movie industry is gone.

Props to those democrats for finally seeing the light.

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It seems Dardenne, Edwards and others in the legislature like the status quo.


Well duh, it's Dardenne's baby through and through and to my knowledge to this day, he has never apologized for it and acknowledged its negative effects.

And he he had the nerve to run as a fiscal conservative for Governor.

frick him.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:08 pm to
I B Freeman's wiener moved
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:09 pm to
Thanks to those film credits, I know stereotype all Louisianans who live south of I-10 to talk like Troy from Swamp People.
Posted by Tigerdev
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:09 pm to
Jindal ran the state into the ground with his fiscal policy by conservative meme approach.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:11 pm to
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Yeah cause those movies are just burning up the Netflix what's hot list...


These films portray La. moreso than Battle of L. A., Fantastic Four, or one of the cheapies shot here to take advantage of the tax breaks.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:16 pm to
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These films portray La. moreso than Battle of L. A., Fantastic Four, or one of the cheapies shot here to take advantage of the tax breaks.




There's an entire industry of unemployed now that were making all those films...
Posted by member12
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:17 pm to
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It's really that simple, but I doubt he gets much supports. It seems Dardenne, Edwards and others in the legislature like the status quo.



Why not? The state can subsidize another industry for New Orleans that benefits a very narrow subset of people at the expense of the entire state.

I might be more willing to support something like that if they allowed a union designation in Baton Rouge and Lafayette (which would thus spread the production around)....but they want it concentrated in New Orleans.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 4:20 pm
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:31 pm to
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The state can subsidize another industry for New Orleans


Except they routinely filmed in Shreveport, Baton Rouge and New Orleans.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:37 pm to
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The film industry is fighting back of course, and they always play the tourist card as if tourist never came to New Orleans or La. until the Film Tax Credit went into effect.


I wonder if they ever bothered to read the Loren Scott impact study, because the i/o tables he uses would capture the tourism in the multiplier. They refuse to acknowledge that, and instead turn to their bs study.

Its amazing that the film subsidy brought so many tourists to the state in a period when tourism was down or flat overall. That industry study also points to Steel Magnolias which filmed in 1989 and True Blood which was not filmed in Louisiana as two of the primary drivers of this film tourism.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:37 pm to
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Except they routinely filmed in Shreveport, Baton Rouge and New Orleans.


Per the film industry spokesman;

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And Mulhearn said at its height the industry created 13,000 jobs here with an annual average wage of $60,000.

He acknowledged the bulk of the benefit has been enjoyed by New Orleans, but Mulhearn is suggesting changes to the program that would provide extra incentives to production companies filming outside of the hub


And because of that he wants more subsidies for other areas not in NO.

You can't make this chit up!! 30% isn't enough of a subsidy, they need more to shoot outside of NO!!!!
Posted by KiwiHead
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:38 pm to
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I don't care who actually gets rid of it at all as long as the welfare scam for the movie industry is gone.


I'm with you 100% on this one. The problem is that this idea of subsidizing the movie industry is one of the Club for Growth's dumb ideas. The idea is that if we bend over backwards for these whores, they will shoot more films, there will be a snowball effect, jobs, those salaries will produce tax revenue, etc. But when the state essentially writes a check to these guys each year I'm not seeing any benefit on any level

Plus if this is Hollywood South, I'm not seeing the big stars moving here and buying homes, etc.. I'm not seeing some sort of "transformative effect"
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Kingpenm3
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:40 pm to
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And Mulhearn said at its height the industry created 13,000 jobs here with an annual average wage of $60,000.


Is this one of those deals where they paid someone $1150 for one week and consider it a $60k yearly wage?

Or I guess Marky Mark's wage averages into that number as well.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36017 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:43 pm to
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Its amazing that the film subsidy brought so many tourists to the state in a period when tourism was down or flat overall. That industry study also points to Steel Magnolias which filmed in 1989 and True Blood which was not filmed in Louisiana as two of the primary drivers of this film tourism.


Exactly, tourists have come for decades, and while some come because of movies; most of the movies they associate with La. were not done during the recent times, but way before that. The film people don't bother to ask which movies remind them of La., that doesn't help their cause.

Dr. Scott and Pupera our legislative auditor have studies the numbers and its a big loser.

We need to stop the drain now as to help our finances down the road. Movie companies are obligating the state to large outlays now and in the future.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36017 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:46 pm to
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Plus if this is Hollywood South, I'm not seeing the big stars moving here and buying homes, etc.. I'm not seeing some sort of "transformative effect"


There are a few film studios and there is a network of workers; however, the producers, actors, and a lot of the people needed to shoot a film are transients and do not put down roots.

There is very little in the way of a "transformative effect".
Posted by Jack Bauer7
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:52 pm to
isn't JBE a supporter of the film tax credit
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36017 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:56 pm to
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isn't JBE a supporter of the film tax credit


Yes, I believe he is.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:58 pm to
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You can't make this chit up!! 30% isn't enough of a subsidy, they need more to shoot outside of NO!!!!



Screw that. They can set up another designation in the other Louisiana cities or they can kiss their subsidies goodbye.

I'm leaning towards scrapping it.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 5:08 pm to
Tell that to Celtic Studios in Baton Rouge.



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the industry created 13,000 jobs here with an annual average wage of $60,000.



So we piss on thousands of good paying jobs so we can piss the money away elsewhere.
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