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Dear Dictionary, could you please define pithy?

Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:17 am
Posted by street pizza
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:17 am
I've looked it up. I was dissatisfied.

I felt that it meant: able to illicit emotion from an intellectual with very few words.

It just means forceful/strong. I can't like this.

I'm requesting the PO address of Websters, etc.
I have a formal complaint.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:19 am to
Won't work unless you're a liberal. Only liberals are able to redefine words as they wish them to be.
Posted by street pizza
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:20 am to
quote:

Won't work unless


Why you have such sad low energy?
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:23 am to
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able to illicit emotion


You don't deserve my help.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:36 am to
Not sure what your angle is here, but I invite you to use the word "homophobia" on this board correctly. This board will tell you that the dictionary is wrong.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:46 am to
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Won't work unless you're a liberal. Only liberals are able to redefine words as they wish them to be.




Like the Trumpkins did with cuckold?
Posted by navy
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:49 am to
Name and town....if you wish to opine.

Do not use illicit language and/or drugs when writing The Factor.



It might elicit an unfavorable reaction.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:55 am to
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Not sure what your angle is here, but I invite you to use the word "homophobia" on this board correctly.


Holy crap, you have gay on the mind! All the time. 24/7. In a thread totally unrelated to gays, you find a way to inject it. Why is that?

Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 5:58 am to
I didn't say anything about gays. I said something about a word that is misunderstood on this board in a thread about a word that is misunderstood.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 5:59 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:03 am to
What, in your opinion, is the common misunderstanding of the word on this board?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:08 am to
Many on this board think it means solely "fear of gays." It does not. Any aversion to or discrimination against gays is, according to both Webster and Oxford, homophobia. I've explained this several times, only to be told that the actual dictionary is wrong.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:14 am to
Gotcha.

So, we can presume that there is a consensus in the English speaking world (as reflected by Webster, et. al.) as to the meaning.

Of course there can exist a substantial minority that does not agree with the consensus. Word meanings can be subjective after all.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:19 am to
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Of course there can exist a substantial minority that does not agree with the consensus. Word meanings can be subjective after all.
Not subjective to the point that Webster and Oxford are wrong. Those two sources are universally accepted as standard in the English speaking world.

In other words, I can dig "This word means this in addition to its dictionary definition." For example, in the 1980's, if you said that something was "bad," it could mean "not good" (disctionary connotation) as well as "very very good." But to say that a dictionary definition is wrong is silly and stupid.
Posted by M. A. Ryland
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:53 am to
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Not subjective to the point that Webster and Oxford are wrong. Those two sources are universally accepted as standard in the English speaking world. In other words, I can dig "This word means this in addition to its dictionary definition." For example, in the 1980's, if you said that something was "bad," it could mean "not good" (disctionary connotation) as well as "very very good." But to say that a dictionary definition is wrong is silly and stupid.


The dictionary merely state what the word is commonly used to mean.
And many SJW's use the word as you defined it above.
The word was originally (and continues to be) used in that way by the left wing as a political attack against SJW opponents.

The fact of the matter is only democrats use the word with that "political attack" meaning.
To any non-democrat/SJW, the word means what it says (irrational fear).
Since only democrats/SJWs would actually use the word at all (after all, how often do you run across an actual irrational fear of ****s?).

Perhaps the rest of the non-SJW world should make a point of occasionally saying in print "Homophobia, the irrational fear of ****s, is an incredibly rare condition", just so Websters wont get confused.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:04 am to
wrong board
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:47 am to
Spin it all you want. I'll use the dictionary definition of words because I speak English.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:29 am to
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I'll use the dictionary definition of words because I speak English.


The dictionary is not a science book or a mathematics book. It is a maliable [book] of reference written by a committee of egghead editors with their own biases, opinions, and agendas.

Entries in one dictionary sometimes differ from entries in another. Some dictionaries contain words the others do not. Which one do you go by in these cases? Too often, new entries reflect slang originating from the dumbest people among us so that the editors can be mentioned on the news once a year.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:30 am to
from the word pith. pith is the central spongy part of a stem that transports nutrients.

etymology
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pithy (adj.)
early 14c., "strong, vigorous," from pith (n.) + -y (2). Meaning "full of substance or significance" is from 1520s; literal meaning "full of pith" not attested until 1560s. Related: Pithily; pithiness.



Here is wiki


quote:

pithy (comparative pithier, superlative pithiest) Concise and meaningful. 1825, William Hazlitt, Elia, and Geoffrey Crayon, (used) in The Spirit of the Age,



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I felt that



dude. I like that your meaning is based on feeling and that you have feelings about your feeling word. that's charming in a way. But its your own invention.

pith is a part of a plant. its the heart and center.

your idea, that the word relates to a feeling VERSUS an intellectual mind-form is pure invention on your part. sorry.

but its such a great idea, you should invent a NEW word to which you confer the meaning you thought was attached to pithy.

Let us know in this thread what you want your new word to be.

If you use it regularly on TD with an asterisk explaining its meaning, in a few years it will be in common parlance. it happens.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 10:37 am
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:41 am to
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egghead editors with their own biases, opinions, and agendas
Can you give me some examples of these people and their biases, opinions, and agendas?
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18076 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:12 am to
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Can you give me some examples of these people and their biases, opinions, and agendas?



Well, you brought "homophobia." Why do some "phobias" have discrimination attached to them, and some don't? That was an editorial decision, not one based on etymology.
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