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Darth Soros: Trump is 'would-be' dictator; EU on the verge of collapse

Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:38 am
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45213 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:38 am
Open Societies Need Defending

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I find the current moment in history very painful. Open societies are in crisis, and various forms of closed societies – from fascist dictatorships to mafia states – are on the rise. How could this happen? The only explanation I can find is that elected leaders failed to meet voters’ legitimate expectations and aspirations and that this failure led electorates to become disenchanted with the prevailing versions of democracy and capitalism. Quite simply, many people felt that the elites had stolen their democracy.


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After the Crash of 2008, the EU and the eurozone became increasingly dysfunctional. Prevailing conditions became far removed from those prescribed by the Maastricht Treaty, but treaty change became progressively more difficult, and eventually impossible, because it couldn’t be ratified. The eurozone became the victim of antiquated laws; much-needed reforms could be enacted only by finding loopholes in them. That is how institutions became increasingly complicated, and electorates became alienated.

The rise of anti-EU movements further impeded the functioning of institutions. And these forces of disintegration received a powerful boost in 2016, first from Brexit, then from the election of Trump in the US, and on December 4 from Italian voters’ rejection, by a wide margin, of constitutional reforms.

Democracy is now in crisis. Even the US, the world’s leading democracy, elected a con artist and would-be dictator as its president. Although Trump has toned down his rhetoric since he was elected, he has changed neither his behavior nor his advisers. His cabinet comprises incompetent extremists and retired generals.

What lies ahead?

I am confident that democracy will prove resilient in the US. Its Constitution and institutions, including the fourth estate, are strong enough to resist the excesses of the executive branch, thus preventing a would-be dictator from becoming an actual one.


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But the US will be preoccupied with internal struggles in the near future, and targeted minorities will suffer. The US will be unable to protect and promote democracy in the rest of the world. On the contrary, Trump will have greater affinity with dictators. That will allow some of them to reach an accommodation with the US, and others to carry on without interference. Trump will prefer making deals to defending principles. Unfortunately, that will be popular with his core constituency.

I am particularly worried about the fate of the EU, which is in danger of coming under the influence of Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose concept of government is irreconcilable with that of open society. Putin is not a passive beneficiary of recent developments; he worked hard to bring them about. He recognized his regime’s weakness: it can exploit natural resources but cannot generate economic growth. He felt threatened by “color revolutions” in Georgia, Ukraine, and elsewhere. At first, he tried to control social media. Then, in a brilliant move, he exploited social media companies’ business model to spread misinformation and fake news, disorienting electorates and destabilizing democracies. That is how he helped Trump get elected.

The same is likely to happen in the European election season in 2017 in the Netherlands, Germany, and Italy. In France, the two leading contenders are close to Putin and eager to appease him. If either wins, Putin’s dominance of Europe will become a fait accompli.

I hope that Europe’s leaders and citizens alike will realize that this endangers their way of life and the values on which the EU was founded. The trouble is that the method Putin has used to destabilize democracy cannot be used to restore respect for facts and a balanced view of reality.

With economic growth lagging and the refugee crisis out of control, the EU is on the verge of breakdown and is set to undergo an experience similar to that of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s. Those who believe that the EU needs to be saved in order to be reinvented must do whatever they can to bring about a better outcome.


Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:42 am to
I find it humorous that Soros and his klan could call anyone a fascist.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95311 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:42 am to
Projection on their part.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32707 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:43 am to
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Open societies are in crisis

Europe should get together and #DraftTheirGirls
Posted by CajunSoldier225
Member since Aug 2011
8990 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:43 am to
He mad
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41669 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:43 am to
Soros is like the Templar Grand Master in an Assassins Creed game.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118758 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:44 am to
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and various forms of closed societies – from fascist dictatorships to mafia states – are on the rise.


Such as?
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:44 am to
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Quite simply, many people felt that the elites had stolen their democracy.



This is interesting since ol' George is responsible for propping up these 'elites'.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67839 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:47 am to
Soros has some salty tears.

He's only mad because it may affect his currency manipulation games.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:47 am to
George has chutzpah.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90570 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:57 am to
I love how Soros thinks democracy is in trouble due to his side not winning. Putin didn't influence these elections, Putin is just the boogeyman they selected because he is the most powerful figure of the anti globalist movement (at least before Trump won).

The people of this movement in their own respective countries spread their idea, stories, and propaganda against the globalists news, stories, and propaganda and at the voting booth, they won. And Soros doesn't like it.

If anything Democracy is stronger than ever as we now know the elites don't rig the outcome of our elections.

Keep melting Soros...your tears are delicious
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12066 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:59 am to
Mr. Soros, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:00 am to
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This is interesting since ol' George is responsible for propping up these 'elites'.


Wasn't it the failure to deliver on the part of the cuckservatives that led to Trump?
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5364 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:02 am to
It's actually pretty simple. The US doesn't want to be overrun by illegals anymore and Britain don't want to be overrun by islamists anymore.

Done. End of story. That's why trump and brexit happened.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36689 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:10 am to
The irony of Soros calling others extremists.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29153 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:20 am to
I can't wait until he dies.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8328 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:21 am to
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The rise of anti-EU movements further impeded the functioning of institutions. And these forces of disintegration received a powerful boost in 2016, first from Brexit, then from the election of Trump in the US, and on December 4 from Italian voters’ rejection, by a wide margin, of constitutional reforms.
It blows my mind how anyone could believe that these elections were contributing factors to the failure of the status quo rather than a direct result of that failure
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 10:33 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72061 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:31 am to
That Nazi sympathizer needs to fade away.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98704 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:31 am to
frick that Nazi sympathizer.

I hope Trump and Putin make a side-bet on which of them can kill him first.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 10:32 am to
Its time to call uncle vlad
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