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DACA for Dummies
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:27 pm
The left is losing their minds over the possibility of DACA ending. Unfortunately they have zero credibility with anything anymore because they lose their minds when Melania wears high heels on AF1 and when Trump orders two scoops of ice cream.
The right seems pretty anti-DACA and fired up about ending it, based on the number of lawsuits filed by states.
A Wikipedia scan tells me that DACA grants no path to citizenship, provides no federal benefits, only applies to young people here prior to June 2012 who meet educational and criminal requirements, has to b renewed every 2 years, and is self funded through fees.
What am missing? Why is DACA a bad program?
The right seems pretty anti-DACA and fired up about ending it, based on the number of lawsuits filed by states.
A Wikipedia scan tells me that DACA grants no path to citizenship, provides no federal benefits, only applies to young people here prior to June 2012 who meet educational and criminal requirements, has to b renewed every 2 years, and is self funded through fees.
What am missing? Why is DACA a bad program?
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:28 pm to Raylan70
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and is self funded through fees.
so illegals are paying fees?
is this a joke?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:29 pm to Raylan70
Are they here legally?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:29 pm to CptBengal
According to Wikipedia they pay $500 to apply for DACA and another $500 every 2 years to renew.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:32 pm to Raylan70
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According to Wikipedia they pay $500 to apply for DACA and another $500 every 2 years to renew.
so the poor mexican kid at 2 yrs old has 500 dollars?
and you think educating them only costs 250 dolalrs PER YEAR!?!?
are you an idiot?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:33 pm to Raylan70
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Why is DACA a bad program?
Whether it's good or bad is irrelevant. An EO cannot override the law. If everyone thinks DACA is ok, pass it through congress.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:33 pm to Rekrul
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Are they here legally?
Good point, no.
However, I imagine most of them were dragged here by their parents, seeing as they were under 16 when they got here. My point being that the DACA kid didn't intentionally break the law, their parents did.
As long as they can't vote, don't receive federal benefits, and are contributing members of society I don't see the problem letting them stay for 2 years.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:34 pm to Raylan70
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Why is DACA a bad program?
It's not but its current iteration is an overreach of power.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:35 pm to ljhog
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Whether it's good or bad is irrelevant. An EO cannot override the law. If everyone thinks DACA is ok, pass it through congress
Sounds good.
I understand and agree with the procedural complaints against DACA. I was just wondering if there was something else I was missing that had to do with the effects of DACA on the economy, security, etc.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:38 pm to CptBengal
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poor mexican kid at 2 yrs old has 500 dollars?
Are 2 year olds applying for DACA status?
Maybe I misread, but it looked like it only applies to people who have been here since 2007.
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Have lived continuously in the United States since 15 June 2007
I guess that means a 10 year old could apply, but not a 2 year old.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:40 pm to Raylan70
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I guess that means a 10 year old could apply, but not a 2 year old.
whatever.
what do you think the cost is to feed, cloth, house, and educate little Jose Illegal per year?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:42 pm to Raylan70
Is DACA a law passed by congress? If you can answer yes then Trump shouldn't be able to end it. If it is an EO then it is an abuse of power and goes against laws on the books, and should be eliminated.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:50 pm to Raylan70
I'd like there to be a pathway to citizenship for those who add value to our economy, but that pathway has to be created by the proper branch of government.
Hint, it's not the executive.
Hint, it's not the executive.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:54 pm to funnystuff
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Hint, it's not the executive.
Sounds like you're butthurt just because...muh, Obama.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:59 pm to VOR
Wanting immigration to be handled properly through Congress is being butt hurt about Obama? 
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:08 pm to VOR
I'm not the poster you asked the question but I would be against the EO no matter who signed it. In fact, I would be more upset were it a GOP president.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:12 pm to Raylan70
Oh. I thought this was DACA for Dummies. Not DACA explained by a dummy.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:33 pm to CptBengal
Yes. Yes he is. Fml.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:39 pm to VOR
Yea, you're just projecting. Take a step away from the keyboard and consider for even a second that not every individual who believes in the separation of powers is a rampant Obamaphobe. Be better than this.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:40 pm to Raylan70
I would prefer the Legislative Branch of FedGov to create immigration laws. I would like the Executive Branch to ENFORCE those laws.
If any Executive Order dares even hint at usurpation of the powers of the Legislative Branch, I oppose that EO.
I like the idea of THIS Chief Executive purging his Branch from Obama's Experiment of writing immigration law from the Oval Office. I like the idea of kicking the whole bundle right back where it belongs -- to the Legislative Branch.
Let Congress deal with the problem. Make them do something that they would hate to do and that is: Do their job.
If any Executive Order dares even hint at usurpation of the powers of the Legislative Branch, I oppose that EO.
I like the idea of THIS Chief Executive purging his Branch from Obama's Experiment of writing immigration law from the Oval Office. I like the idea of kicking the whole bundle right back where it belongs -- to the Legislative Branch.
Let Congress deal with the problem. Make them do something that they would hate to do and that is: Do their job.
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