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Curious. How many think Meuller steps down?
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:17 am
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:17 am
I'm hearing consistent and plausible Legal arguments for his "recusal", and that of Rosenstein. IMO, nobody would want to handle this hot potato, especially after the Shooting. I think they are beginning to realize that the political 'games'/faux *investigations* and the pernicious effects on societal stability are over. When 'weak links' believe there is criminal culpability unpunished, they go rogue.
I think Meuller goes, and they shut it down. Upvote.
I think Meuller goes, and they shut it down. Upvote.
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Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:22 am to RCDfan1950
Rosenstien recuses, Brand dissolves Muller and the gang is my prediction. Trump will say it's her call, and she'll make it.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:30 am to RCDfan1950
Why would Mueller step down when all signs show he's ramping up the investigation??
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:31 am to Hightide12
On the surface, it appears Mueller has a credibility problem re: Coney.
That said, during Mueller ran a tight ship during his reign as FBI director. Whose to say that he sees Comey in this perfect light? Maybe he sees Comey as a buffoon who oversaw the dismantling of the FBI's position as the most trustworthy agency in the federal government?
However, even then his impartiality may be in question. He's not really in a good spot.
That said, during Mueller ran a tight ship during his reign as FBI director. Whose to say that he sees Comey in this perfect light? Maybe he sees Comey as a buffoon who oversaw the dismantling of the FBI's position as the most trustworthy agency in the federal government?
However, even then his impartiality may be in question. He's not really in a good spot.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:31 am to BamaAtl
quote:If Rosenstein is recusing himself, Mueller may have to because he was appointed by him.
Why would Mueller step down when all signs show he's ramping up the investigation??
I don't think Mueller will recuse himself, but the situation bears some thought.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:33 am to Scruffy
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If Rosenstein is recusing himself, Mueller may have to because he was appointed by him.
That's not how it works. Rosenstein is recusing himself because Trump admitted Rosenstein is a likely witness in an ongoing criminal investigation into Trump personally.
Mueller is no such witness, and has broad bipartisan support.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:34 am to RCDfan1950
Never happen. Robert Meuller will never step down. The powers in Washington will keep this witchhunt going right through the 2018 and 2020 elections. All this is about destroying Trump, regaining power, and neutralizing his supporters. They need not impeach him, just keep the allegations (and leaks) coming and let the CNN et al propaganda ministry keep pushing the narrative daily.
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it" - Joseph Goebbels
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it" - Joseph Goebbels
This post was edited on 6/17/17 at 8:36 am
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:36 am to Hightide12
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Rosenstien recuses, Brand dissolves Muller and the gang is my prediction. Trump will say it's her call, and she'll make it.
100% Correct.
[i]"He has a flagrant conflict of interest that disqualifies him from serving. To wit, his personal and professional closeness to Comey. They have long been allies. Comey regards his predecessor at the FBI as a mentor, while Mueller considers Comey his protégé.
It was evident at the outset that the fired FBI Director would be the pivotal witness in any potential obstruction of justice investigation by Mueller. Therefore, it was incomprehensible that Rod Rosenstein, the Acting Attorney General, would choose him. It was equally baffling that Mueller would accept the position."
LINK
This post was edited on 6/17/17 at 8:51 am
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:40 am to BamaAtl
quote:"That's not how it works."
has broad bipartisan support.
quote:Rosenstein is recusing himself?
Rosenstein is recusing himself because Trump admitted Rosenstein is a likely witness
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:43 am to RCDfan1950
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I'm hearing consistent and plausible Legal arguments for his "recusal", and that of Rosenstein. IMO, nobody would want to handle this hot potato, especially after the Shooting. I think they are beginning to realize that the political 'games'/faux *investigations* and the pernicious effects on societal stability are over. When 'weak links' believe there is criminal culpability unpunished, they go rogue.
I think Meuller goes, and they shut it down. Upvote.
It's all predicated upon what they determine the meaning of "I Hope you can find away to clear this for Mike" means.
From everything I'm learning about this whole process, it seems to be a sham. There isn't any evidence because nothing wrong happened. SHUT THAT MFer DOWN.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:44 am to NC_Tigah
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Rosenstein is recusing himself?
Most likely, after Trump whined that Rosenstein urged him to fire Comey - since firing Comey is why Trump is personally under criminal investigation by Mueller for obstruction of justice.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:50 am to RCDfan1950
quote:You are assuming civility from the left. There is none.
I think Meuller goes, and they shut it down.
However, at this stage, with the Lynch revelations, the fact Comey's FBI never laid hands or eyes on the DNC server, the fact that Comey was aware of corruption within the Obama DOJ which he apparently chose not to pursue, the fact Comey deliberately kept conversations with POTUS ambiguous to enable his later "interpretation" aka spin of them, I'd hope the thing doesn't get shut down.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:51 am to RCDfan1950
No way in hell. The guy is a soldier of the Deep State. They probably have him on tape diddling little boys. He'll stay on and he'll do what they tell him to do.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:54 am to NC_Tigah
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I'd hope the thing doesn't get shut down.
I almost hope Trump does fire him in an attempt to shut it down. That moves the Congressional conversation overwhelmingly toward impeachment.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 8:59 am to RCDfan1950
1) it's possible mueller is bringing in all theses left leaning lawyers to make sure nobody complains when trump is cleared
2) it's possible mueller wants to remove trump over anything
Should he recuse himself ? Yes if all he has is the comey o of j claim since his connection to comey goes way back
2) it's possible mueller wants to remove trump over anything
Should he recuse himself ? Yes if all he has is the comey o of j claim since his connection to comey goes way back
Posted on 6/17/17 at 9:01 am to jb4
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Yes if all he has is the comey o of j claim
That's not all he has, hence the focus on financial crimes.
Is anyone here dumb enough to think that Trump is clean in that arena?
Posted on 6/17/17 at 9:02 am to BamaAtl
Yeah, I don't think House and Senate republicans would go along with him getting rid of Mueller. That's a bridge too far.
Many forget that people in congress like their jobs/power too. They're won't simply roll over to help the president when it puts their own gig in jeopardy. Several high profile republicans have said the Mueller probe is appropriate and should continue. Polls show support for the probe are in high 60s. Only 22% supported the Comey firing.
Many forget that people in congress like their jobs/power too. They're won't simply roll over to help the president when it puts their own gig in jeopardy. Several high profile republicans have said the Mueller probe is appropriate and should continue. Polls show support for the probe are in high 60s. Only 22% supported the Comey firing.
Posted on 6/17/17 at 9:02 am to RCDfan1950
Mueller was put there to complete his mission for the Deep State -- inflict maximum political damage on POTUS Trump.
He and Comey are BFFs and have been for decades. Both Mueller and Comey will enjoy tremendous prestige in Establishment Wash DC circles if they damage Trump. They both have every motive to do so.
And when they do, there will be an army of legal experts on mass media telling us it's legit and Maverick John McCain will call for POTUS Trump to Resign for "the good of the country."
I can see this all coming for late summer 2018. I'm a Medium.
He and Comey are BFFs and have been for decades. Both Mueller and Comey will enjoy tremendous prestige in Establishment Wash DC circles if they damage Trump. They both have every motive to do so.
And when they do, there will be an army of legal experts on mass media telling us it's legit and Maverick John McCain will call for POTUS Trump to Resign for "the good of the country."
I can see this all coming for late summer 2018. I'm a Medium.
This post was edited on 6/17/17 at 9:07 am
Posted on 6/17/17 at 9:07 am to Champagne
Trump is at fault for special p. Obama knew to have his most loyal type put in place as attorney general who would never appoint one. Not to mention the media would not call for any investigation under obama. Trump failed to put in place an attorney general or deputy who would watch his back like holder. Than add trump not firing comey day 1 
This post was edited on 6/17/17 at 9:09 am
Posted on 6/17/17 at 9:08 am to NC_Tigah
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You are assuming civility from the left. There is none. However, at this stage, with the Lynch revelations, the fact Comey's FBI never laid hands or eyes on the DNC server, the fact that Comey was aware of corruption within the Obama DOJ which he apparently chose not to pursue, the fact Comey deliberately kept conversations with POTUS ambiguous to enable his later "interpretation" aka spin of them, I'd hope the thing doesn't get shut down.
"Civility" is key, NC. In normal circumstance the criminal discrediting of Trump by a successful Meuller Investigation in order to undermine Trump's political hegemony, would be a win for Dems. However, Meuller must now realize where it all goes if Dem (extremists) BELIEVE that Trump is truly guilty. They will act - per the Shooter - and sooner or later...the Right will react, less either the Authoritarian hammer/Rule of Law comes down hard...or Trump is removed.
I find it hard to believe that they will choose to continue down this road to perdition. If they are truly desirous of their own prosperity and security, they will find a way out. Because they must realize that Trump's Policy will indeed bring about economic growth and the implementation of a lot of things that Dems like. Just that Trump/Right will get the credit. And that (Egotistical/Ideological) psychological dynamic may be the ultimate determinant re their choice. I hope not.
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