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Cost Shifting for the ACA vs Single Payer

Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:50 am
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24740 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:50 am
It's obvious that if we go to single payer, the tax rates for wealthy Americans will skyrocket, while the people who currently don't pay federal income taxes will continue not paying them.

Isn't that exactly what the ACA does? The people who make less money get subsidized by the people who make more money? The only difference is that the healthcare services themselves aren't administered by the government, although with all the regulations, the may as well be.

We all see how Obamacare was designed to fail, in order to make way for a single payer system. I think the segue to get single payer will be that the wealthy won't have to pay any more than they do now, they'll just pay taxes instead of making premium payments.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73492 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:52 am to
What is considered wealthy will continually adjust as needed to fund it too.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140355 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:52 am to
Since they have failed at growing the ranks of takers through amnesty, they have decided to increase the amount the current takers actually take to guarantee their loyalty to their AGENDA.

They don't actually care about poor people. If they did they wouldn't drive European cars and take lavish vacations.

It's all a shell game anyway.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24740 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:06 pm to
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It's all a shell game anyway.


That's exactly what I'm saying.

The next step will be to show that switching to a single payer system would cost less then the current system, because the government will negotiate better rates and we'll take out the middle man (insurance companies). The appeal to the rich will be that they won't have to pay outrageous premiums, they'll just pay a higher tax rate.

Except that the chances of it costing less are about the same as Obamacare saving the average family $2500 on their premiums.

Of course, government inefficiencies will offset lower costs. A government bureaucracy will take the place of insurance companies, and squeezing the providers will cause shortages of providers, as it does in other countries with single payer.
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