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Corps of Engineers blocks ND Access Pipeline

Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:27 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:27 pm
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The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe won a major victory on Sunday in its battle to block an oil pipeline being built near its reservation when the Department of the Army announced that it would not allow the pipeline to be drilled under a dammed section of the Missouri River.

The Army said it would look for alternative routes for the $3.7 billion Dakota Access pipeline. Construction of the route a half-mile from the Standing Rock Sioux reservation has become a global flash point for environmental and indigenous activism, drawing thousands of people out here to a sprawling prairie camp of tents, tepees and yurts.

“The best way to complete that work responsibly and expeditiously is to explore alternate routes for the pipeline crossing,” Jo-Ellen Darcy, the Army’s assistant secretary for civil works, said in a statement. The move could presage a lengthy environmental review that has the potential to block the pipeline’s construction for months or years.


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Looks to be only temporary until an alternative can be developed, but still a speed bump.
Posted by MadDoggyStyle
Member since Feb 2012
3857 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:34 pm to
Construction will re-start Jan. 21, 2017.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Member since Aug 2015
12788 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 11:20 pm to
Yep. Been monitoring this one for stock purposes. Seems like a good time to sell, then buy as the stocks affected by this are on the way down. Though, I'd expect the new admin to get this pushed through.

Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:56 am to
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Yep. Been monitoring this one for stock purposes. Seems like a good time to sell, then buy as the stocks affected by this are on the way down. Though, I'd expect the new admin to get this pushed through.
why monitor that? All one has to do is buy O & G stocks now, because in 6 to 10 months the Mideast will be on fire and oil will approach $100.00 a barrel and gasoline in the U.S. will be around 4.00 to 5.00 a gallon just before labor day 2017. Gen Mattis and Flynn with make the Mideast great again
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:00 am to
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why monitor that? All one has to do is buy O & G stocks now, because in 6 to 10 months the Mideast will be on fire and oil will approach $100.00 a barrel and gasoline in the U.S. will be around 4.00 to 5.00 a gallon just before labor day 2017. Gen Mattis and Flynn with make the Mideast great again


hahahahahahahahahahaha

fricking moron
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:38 am to
Looks like they are conceding a delay to get a majority of the protesters to leave the area. Once they clear out, the area will be secured and construction will resume.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52765 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:40 am to
quote:

why monitor that? All one has to do is buy O & G stocks now, because in 6 to 10 months the Mideast will be on fire and oil will approach $100.00 a barrel and gasoline in the U.S. will be around 4.00 to 5.00 a gallon just before labor day 2017. Gen Mattis and Flynn with make the Mideast great again



Panic more... it's quite endearing...
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:44 am to
quote:

The move could presage a lengthy environmental review that has the potential to block the pipeline’s construction for months or years.


I've seen a 60 acre wetland permit get turned around in a couple months. I've also seen a 0.3 acre permit sit at the USACE for a year. If the right people want it done, it won't take long at all.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14330 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:42 am to
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Panic more... it's quite endearing...
no panic - just giving my side...didn't know it was considered a panic type deal...glad you find it endearing.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58107 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:48 am to
Any particular reason you think the Mideast will be on fire?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:54 am to
I'm wondering about the timeline on all this. When did the pipeline company get permission to build the pipeline and from whom was the permission given. Did the protesters show up before that ruling or afterwards?
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16715 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:54 am to
If the drilling under the river is going to occur on the dammed side of the Missouri, I would think the dam provides a layer of insurance in the event of a pipe breach. They could close the dam to protect the lower Missouri, including the reservation.

So why protest? And I'd be curious as to the technical reasons for the Corps not approving the plan under the Missouri.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 9:56 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112417 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 10:01 am to
quote:

And I'd be curious as to the technical reasons for the Corps not approving the plan under the Missouri.


They got a directive from the White House. It was on a radio network news show early this morning.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 10:02 am to
Are Indians anti-globalists?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 10:03 am to
If we're going to stop a pipeline because someone thinks it could leak and contaminate the water thus either killing or making people sick then we sure as hell don't need to be building additional highways because we know people are going to be injured or killed on them - and in short time.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16715 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 10:04 am to
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They got a directive from the White House. It was on a radio network news show early this morning.


Oh. So no technical reason. It's political.

How about the administration trust the Corps to protect the waterway. The technology exists.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 10:10 am to
quote:

How about the administration trust the Corps to protect the waterway


So why did the Corps wait until a "potential" confrontation" is on the horizon? Why didn't the Corps stop it when the pipeline got the original go-ahead?
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14330 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

Any particular reason you think the Mideast will be on fire?
Iran -
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:31 pm to
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Looks to be only temporary until an alternative can be developed, but still a speed bump.


Or..as the brutal winter weather drives them off with a false sense of victory, the construction restarts with a perimeter of security to keep them from reestablishing a camp.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Why didn't the Corps stop it when the pipeline got the original go-ahead?



Ummm...Obama?

Just a guess.
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