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Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:38 am to DelU249
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:38 am to DelU249
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Fight for your rights in a setting that isn't full of unknowns and a gun
Yeah, I agree. 10000%.
I'm emphasizing through extreme language exactly how dangerous interacting with the police can be. Anyone who disagrees with that should explain why there are Profesional courses that teach people how to avoid dying when talking to police officers.
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Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:39 am to Bleeding purple
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You really are miserable foul mouthed person aren't you
You are a cop aren't you?
I can spot them a mile away.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:39 am to MrCarton
Wow. You do realize people conceal weapons right? Including guns right?
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:40 am to MrCarton
Nope not a cop
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:40 am to Tridentds
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pushes one of them, then takes off running.
He juked the cop after the cop totally bungled his arrest. That's what happened.
Cop then shoots him in the back.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:42 am to MrCarton
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Just cup the balls and do whatever they say. If they ask to frick your wife or girlfriend, agree. Otherwise, they can and will use any tool at their disposal to show you just how powerful they are.
Thats one of the largest strawman statements I've heard.
Pat yourself on the back!
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:42 am to cave canem
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It's all fun and games till folks start getting hung juries for killing a cop because they "feared for their life", that's where this is headed.
Not speaking to this incident but there will be a toll paid for the thin blue line nonsense.
Exactly.
Like it or not, these videos are having a deep and irreversible effect on the relationship between police and the policed, to the point that I think police need to modify their behavior and training to prevent a complete breakdown of that relationship.
When it comes down to it, I am law-abiding, I know the cops are almost always in the right, and will comply right up to the point where resisting is worth my life, but I don't like where this is going. It's not good for anyone, including me and you who don't break laws, and including the police.
I hate that police reflexively respond the way they have in this thread.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:42 am to cave canem
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It's all fun and games till folks start getting hung juries for killing a cop because they "feared for their life", that's where this is headed.
Not speaking to this incident but there will be a toll paid for the thin blue line nonsense.
Stupid, you have a right to self defense against cops if they aren't acting legally.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:42 am to idlewatcher
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I've always been of the belief that if you run from the cops, you should be shot. No authority = no peace
Yea, I'm an a'hole.
nah you are an idiot
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:43 am to DelU249
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Also he had a knife
Did the cops know about it before shooting? I have tell, this one looks bad.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 10:46 am
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:43 am to DelU249
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He was only trying to get away.
If you run from a dog, it will chase you. If you, keep running, it will bite you.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:44 am to Bleeding purple
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Wow. You do realize people conceal weapons right? Including guns right?
I've made more arrests than you, in more dangerous areas than you. Places where people blow themselves up to kill you. Places where the locals will fricking kill you for mistreating them. So spare me that routine son.
I'm aware that weapons can be concealed. I'm also aware that your your fear and imagination do not constitute an actual threat to life limb and eyesight. This case is a perfect example of emotion trumping training. It's also why I think cops should have the same lethal force ROE as everyone else.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:44 am to DelU249
I will never ever ever feel sorry for someone who gets harmed by the police when they're non-compliant or violent with the cops.
99.9999% of the time, if you obey them, then you dont get hurt. Its not fricking hard to understand.
99.9999% of the time, if you obey them, then you dont get hurt. Its not fricking hard to understand.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:44 am to MrCarton
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I can spot them a mile away.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:44 am to MrCarton
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You don't get to imagine a gun
Actually you do. a lot of circumstances where they assumed correctly. In this instance Patrick Harmon put them in the position of having to make that choice. One choice puts your life on the line
No amount of training or anything is going to eliminate that survival instinct. You're idealistic police force will never exist.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:44 am to uway
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So you believe no one should be able to walk or ride a bike on the street at night without a headlight of some sort? Because they might cause an accident?
Thats nonsense. Not only should be able to..they are able to and do so frequently. Do you believe they should be able to pick and choose which traffic laws they wish to ignore and blame someone else if things go wrong?
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:45 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Stupid, you have a right to self defense against cops if they aren't acting legally.
A cop can mutter a few words and make himself legal in almost any circumstance. He can even charge for resisting arrest as the sole charge.
A cop can claim, without any evidence at all, that he feared for his life. He can then use that claim to justify killing you.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:46 am to DelU249
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You don't get to imagine a gun
Actually you do.
Wrong. Only cops get to do that. You don't.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:47 am to Dale51
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Thats one of the largest strawman statements I've heard.
Pat yourself on the back!
You don't know what a strawman.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:47 am to MrCarton
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A cop can claim, without any evidence at all, that he feared for his life. He can then use that claim to justify killing you.
That's not how it works at all.
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