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Constitutional carry is great and all, but with a CHP you get immunity as of 7/4/24

Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:40 am
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:40 am
Act 2 of 2024 2nd Extraordinary Session

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That plus quick checks for purchases are definite incentives.

Posted by RFK
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:44 am to
Can you explain the CHP further?
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:47 am to
These legi clowns can’t do shite (anything good) without caveats.

This won’t prevent a lawsuit if you blast someone.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 10:48 am
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:47 am to
Concealed Handgun Permit

Requires 8 hour class, proficiency, fingerprinting and background check by state police.

Reup every 5 years with 4 hour refresher, range proficiency and paperwork.

Fees involved, but not prohibitive.

Also, reciprocity with just about every other permit state (there's not full reciprocity with all other constitutional carry states).
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:48 am to
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These legi clowns can’t do shite (anything good) without caveats.

This won’t prevent a lawsuit if you blast someone


No, but it gives you a quick out of the case.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:49 am to
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These legi clowns can’t do shite (anything good) without caveats.

This won’t prevent a lawsuit if you blast someone.


Wait a second....you want immunity from criminal prosecution when the person acted maliciously?
Posted by LSUbest
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:51 am to
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definite incentives


Agreed, a little bone they threw to the State Police revenue stream.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:52 am to
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These legi clowns can’t do shite (anything good) without caveats.

This won’t prevent a lawsuit if you blast someone.


You think that someone who gets a CHP should have a license to kill?
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:53 am to
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You think that someone who gets a CHP should have a license to kill?


If only.

That's not what this is. But, you know that.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:56 am to
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If only.

That's not what this is. But, you know that.


I know. I was responding to the post suggesting it wasn't sufficient because it wasn't an absolute immunity.

Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:58 am to
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I know. I was responding to the post suggesting it wasn't sufficient because it wasn't an absolute immunity


Gotcha
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:14 am to
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I know. I was responding to the post suggesting it wasn't sufficient because it wasn't an absolute immunity.
My point is they pass const carry, then turn around and create a special class based on CHL status and vet, etc.
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:18 am to
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Concealed Handgun Permit


aka - infringement
Posted by FCarole
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:39 am to
How does a state immunity law do when competing against a FEDERAL murder charge???
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:42 am to
Civil immunity
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:49 am to
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How does a state immunity law do when competing against a FEDERAL murder charge???
I wonder what the annual percentage is of MURDERS (not related to self-defense) there are by those with licensed concealed carry, as opposed to those MURDERS committed by those who are unlicensed?
Posted by Clames
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:53 am to
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but with a CHP you get immunity as of 7/4/24




I don't think this law will apply only to those with permits in light of the passage of SB1.
Posted by Buck Strickland
Arlen, Texas
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:56 am to
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This won’t prevent a lawsuit if you blast someone.


While this is true, if you combine this with a good concealed carry insurance policy that, at a minimum, provides for the cost of your defense, you are in a much better position.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 12:20 pm to
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I don't think this law will apply only to those with permits in light of the passage of SB1


By its language, it does not extend to constitutional carry
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:20 pm to
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Also, reciprocity with just about every other permit state (there's not full reciprocity with all other constitutional carry states).


What does "full" reciprocity" mean? This is an honest question.

If one reads the laws, reciprocity isn't relevant with constitutional carry. You don't get 'extra' rights or privileges in the 28 other states that already allow constitutional carry, the only potential additional benefit for a Louisiana permit would be in a state that doesn't acknowledge constitutional carry and requires these silly government-issued permission slips.

If someone can define what this additional "full reciprocity" concept means, it would be helpful for the discussion and/or we can put this myth of reciprocity's value to bed.

To reinforce that reciprocity isn't relevant, a Louisiana resident can drive to Mississippi, Texas or the 25 other states today and exercise constitutional carry as the laws are written, as they apply to anyone who can legally possess a firearm. There are no references to 'residents' in the Louisiana or Texas laws, only citizens.

I haven't read this new bill yet, it will interesting to see the extent to which this immunity from civil claims extends.

For instance, a Vermont resident (his home state doesn't issue any permit) is traveling through Louisiana yet cannot avail himself of this law's benefit if he defended himself in good faith and were sued by an attacker.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 1:38 pm
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