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Conservative groups need to counter protest the Nazi groups

Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:12 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:12 am
Conservative groups cannot allow the Nazi groups to high jack your cause.

The same should go for Progressive groups as well, but since I side with the Conservative group here, I'm more concerned about them.

Control the narrative, not just by words, but by action. If Nazi groups show up to a rally, protest their appearance. Do not allow them enter your area. Separate yourselves.

Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:13 am to
Agree with the sentiment. But the narrative has already been set. We are not looking for honest debate here, just diatribe after diatribe.

Was well said by a poster a few days ago. We need our Two Minutes of Hate on the reg.
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:14 am to
No they don't. Conservatives need to encourage Antifa to be louder, more brash, more lawless and more on TV.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:14 am to
quote:

Conservative groups cannot allow the Nazi groups to high jack your cause.

those 100 yokels ain't hijacking shite, regardless of what the liberal-slanted part of the media says to amplify their cause

even if they do, they'll just be called Nazis or racists the next time they march apart from the Nazis (like Patriot Prayer)
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:15 am to
It doesn't really matter at this point. The news has their story and will make anything conservatives do seem terrible.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:15 am to
100% dawgfan, any conservative at any rally will just be portrayed as a Nazi by the fake news media,
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:15 am to
quote:

those 100 yokels ain't hijacking shite


They already have.

Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:15 am to
quote:

Conservative groups cannot allow the Nazi groups to high jack your cause.


They're not. No one thinks that. People that do think that were never going to vote conservative anyway.

quote:

Control the narrative, not just by words, but by action


I go to my job everyday, pay my taxes, care for my family, raise my son, and vote for the best man for the job. Like the rest of the middle of the country.

quote:

If Nazi groups show up to a rally, protest their appearance. 


I'd rather not give them the time of day. Also I have a job and a family. I cant hang out all day in a park bitching about statues. These groups feed on attention, let them starve. And I'm not going to get beaten up or worse by some Soros funded manipulated sheep for the sake of a protest.

You want to be upset about something?

We need lobbyist reform, congressional term limits, and to stop giving the MSM attention.
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 7:18 am
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:16 am to
Lol the left will always find ways to paint conservatism as racist. No Nazi's needed. You'd be wasting your time, even though I agree with your premise.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:16 am to
Conservatives would still be associated with the nazis by the media
Posted by tiger7166
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:16 am to
quote:

Conservative groups
work for a living.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:17 am to
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They already have.

no, the media is reporting how they choose

this is just like how the Tea Party was a haven of racists and the media kept amplifying lies about racial incidents

the media needs to be hijacked. short of that, there is nothing non-liberal groups can do
Posted by Bourre
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:17 am to
Liberals need groups to protest ANTIFA and not deny their existence
Posted by Tiger Prawn
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:18 am to
Except most conservatives don't want to run the risk of some leftist jackasses accusing them of being racist and doxing them, posting their names, addresses and place of employment online so other leftists can ruin their lives and cost them their job
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:18 am to
quote:

no, the media is reporting how they choose


You can force the media's hand with strong action.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:19 am to
my example from yesterday:

SF Examiner: "Patriot Prayer" Article

quote:

The pro-Trump protest is another stop for the Patriot Prayer group on its West Coast tour, led by right-wing notable Joey Gibson. Just Sunday, Gibson, clad in a “Hillary for Prison” T-shirt, led his band of wackos through Seattle, as minor clashes between liberal groups and self-identified white supremacists broke out around them.


SPLC Article on the event

quote:

“Listen, what happened yesterday, if you believe in your heart that what happened yesterday is not what you stand for, if you are against what happened yesterday, do not ever let these people make you feel bad!” he told the rallygoers. “Because we weren’t there, and we had nothing to do with that! Patriot Prayer has always preached peace, and has always preached love, a hundred percent of the time!”


quote:

“frick white supremacists! frick neo-Nazis!” Gibson told the crowd, reminding them that he himself is a person of color, “and I have no use for that kind of thinking. It’s wrong.”

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:19 am to
quote:

Liberals need groups to protest ANTIFA and not deny their existence


I said this in the OP.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:20 am to
Not to play tit for tat Salmon, but do you also call for level headed liberals to march against ANTIFA?
Posted by Abadeebadaba
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Member since Sep 2010
4983 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:20 am to
quote:

Conservative groups cannot allow the Nazi groups to high jack your cause.

The same should go for Progressive groups as well, but since I side with the Conservative group here, I'm more concerned about them.

Control the narrative, not just by words, but by action. If Nazi groups show up to a rally, protest their appearance. Do not allow them enter your area. Separate yourselves.

No thanks, I have more important things to do with my time. I don't feel the need to get worked up about idiots parading around in nazi and KKK regalia. It is utterly pointless because those people are scum, they always have been and always will be.

IF they are not being violent, let them do their stupid protest and out themselves for what they are. Going and showing them attention is exactly what they want for their dumbass cause, their numbers have been falling for years because people see them for what they really are. Only now are they getting more coverage (they have been marching and protesting for years) so that one side can have their "boogeyman".
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:20 am to
quote:

You can force the media's hand with strong action.




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