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re: CNN, NY Times, others blocked from WH Press gaggle
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:10 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:10 pm to buckeye_vol
Look. I can deal with all their ridiculous comments and tweets. But when it comes to not even stopping for one second to think about the victims of human trafficking- no. I'm sorry but that is just wrong. Putting your agenda above the victims of human trafficking is sick. A healthy respectable anti trump person Would say nothing at all beneath that speech or would say something like "well at least he wants to stop trafficking"
But nope. That's not what they did. They are clearly brainwashed
But nope. That's not what they did. They are clearly brainwashed
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:12 pm to WheelRoute
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Let's try to keep it to major policies, not some sub-part of a rule issued by an agency.
Do you consider EPA regulations as major or not so much? They have impacted US companies from drilling in international waters in gulf and other areas, but it hasn't stopped China and other state run oil companies from drilling.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:13 pm to Friscodog
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They have impacted US companies from drilling in international waters in gulf and other areas, but it hasn't stopped China and other state run oil companies from drilling.
Hell, obama placed an offshore moratorium on drilling while giving billions to Brazil to do the same.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:13 pm to TJGator1215
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This is rich given how you guys talked about Obama.
But a political board trashing Obama is not the same as all media outlets
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:14 pm to WheelRoute
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Anyways, can you explain a little more what you mean by national socialism? Are we talking Nazism?
In an economic sense, it was heavy government involvement in industry. Tight controls. Heavy regulation, picking winners and losers. Basically a planned model which were seeing with industries targeted and others promoted based on perceived social interests.
"Reining in Wall street" is also in your platform.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:15 pm to Jay Quest
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Investment money is how some startups and even some existing companies grow and continue to grow. Discouraging that investment is not being pro business.
I'm skeptical that people will curb investing just because their realized gains are 5% smaller.
Also, I chafe a bit at the notion that just b/c a policy might marginally reduce the profits of a corporation, that it is anti-business. Business doesn't always respect the consumer or the environment. There's a balance to be struck w/r/t regulation.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:18 pm to WheelRoute
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I'm skeptical that people will curb investing just because their realized gains are 5% smaller.
Trump's campaign promise to lower capital gains tax is producing an optimism missing for the last eight years. People can actually keep their money.
Warren Buffett can stuff it.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:19 pm to buckeye_vol
I agree that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence but you know if trump REALLLY got a question, they'd be blasting that everywhere.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:19 pm to tigerinDC09
Isn't a gaggle a group of geese?
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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In an economic sense, it was heavy government involvement in industry. Tight controls. Heavy regulation, picking winners and losers. Basically a planned model which were seeing with industries targeted and others promoted based on perceived social interests.
"Reining in Wall street" is also in your platform.
So national socialism just means strong regulatory bodies? That seems a little bit like the definition trying to fit the condition. Or a way to shoehorn in the epithet "socialism" into a rather benign conversation a/b protecting consumers.
Also, I don't think there's a planned model for any industry. Very heavily regulated industries might appear that way, but I can't say I've ever been under the impression that a politician I was voting for was advocating the selection of winners and losers or deciding how much profit, employment, etc a particular industry could have. And to be clear: I'd be against that.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:20 pm to WheelRoute
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There's a balance to be struck w/r/t regulation.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. But the three knuckleheads who headed up the EPA under obama were not looking for balance.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:21 pm to Jay Quest
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I agree with you wholeheartedly. But the three knuckleheads who headed up the EPA under obama were not looking for balance.
I have a big black area in my brain where my knowledge of the EPA and environment should be so I won't attempt to argue here. As you might expect, I'm generally sympathetic to environmental concerns just b/c of how much I enjoy the outdoors. But I have no expertise on environmental regulation.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:22 pm to WheelRoute
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Also, I don't think there's a planned model for any industry. Very heavily regulated industries might appear that way, but I can't say I've ever been under the impression that a politician I was voting for was advocating the selection of winners and losers or deciding how much profit, employment, etc a particular industry could have. And to be clear: I'd be against that.
Might want to pay attention to regulations and payoffs to particularly the energy and transportation industries. They are definitely planned
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:27 pm to WheelRoute
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As you might expect, I'm generally sympathetic to environmental concerns just b/c of how much I enjoy the outdoors
Anyone with a functioning brain would want clean air and clean water and a complete ozone layer. I would never argue against good EPA regulations that produces those intended results.
But that simply wasn't always the goal under the obama administration. Especially when Lisa Jackson was heading the agency.
I work for the good guys. We clean up landfills and we still had to fight the EPA and their efforts to thwart our business.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:27 pm to berrycajun
quote:Of course it's wrong. But it's still nothing new. And human trafficking is terrible, but it's not like some stupid twitter trolls doesn't make it any more terrible by comparison.
But when it comes to not even stopping for one second to think about the victims of human trafficking- no. I'm sorry but that is just wrong.
Maybe I'm just used to it, or I realize that attention-seeking behavior is best ignored, and twitter is a great place to not be ignored, especially when replying to Trump.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:28 pm to tigerinDC09
Poor fascist baby doesn't like being questioned
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:30 pm to JoBoo
When a news organization outright lies or does not fact check their sources in a rush to put out dirt on the President, why should he do them any favors? They do this in a mean-spirited effort to denigrate him and demean his efforts when he does what he said he would do. They are doing this intentionally and all too frequently. These same clowns went all in for the most corrupt presidential candidate in recent history, and they are dismayed that she lost. This has impacted their credibility, so they set out to destroy the winner. It's sad and funny at the same time, and pathetic as well.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:43 pm to tigerinDC09
Stomping all over the bill of rights one day at a time
This just proves Trump is a snowflake. News outlets said mean things about him, so they aren't allowed in because it hurt his feelings. What a clown.
This just proves Trump is a snowflake. News outlets said mean things about him, so they aren't allowed in because it hurt his feelings. What a clown.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:45 pm to AggieDub14
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Stomping all over the bill of rights one day at a time
Trump and Obama are a lot alike in that regard
Posted on 2/24/17 at 5:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Yeah you're right. frick em both.
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