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Posted on 12/28/16 at 7:27 pm to boomertoomer
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His breeding potential should be curtailed
I believe he caught the ghey from Rex, so we're good on that front.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 7:30 pm to Lsuhoohoo
CNN chose their side, abandoned any semblance of journalistic integrity and picked the wrong horse.
Choices have consequences and when your willful choices all go sideways and blow up in your face, it's on you.
No one forced CNN to go from the perceived network that was placed between MSNBC on he left and FNC on the right to a network that went all in on advocacy for Hillary Clinton.
They chose to do that.
So screw them.
Choices have consequences and when your willful choices all go sideways and blow up in your face, it's on you.
No one forced CNN to go from the perceived network that was placed between MSNBC on he left and FNC on the right to a network that went all in on advocacy for Hillary Clinton.
They chose to do that.
So screw them.
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 12/28/16 at 7:31 pm to PoundFoolish
Oh that must be true and not one of those worked with the GOP
Posted on 12/28/16 at 7:32 pm to NC_Tigah
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Good Lord Man! CNN's ratings have fallen behind MSNBC
Where are you seeing that? The stats indicate CNN beating MSNBC.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 7:58 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
quote:CNN didn't even make the top 25 in primetime!
In cable ratings for the week ended Dec. 18:
Top five networks in primetime (18-49s): ESPN, Freeform, TBS, USA, Hallmark Channel.
Top five networks in primetime (total viewers): ESPN, Fox News Channel, Hallmark Channel, Freeform, USA.
Top five total-day networks (total viewers): Fox News Channel, Hallmark Channel, Nickelodeon, ESPN, Adult Swim.
Top cable news networks in primetime (total viewers): Fox News Channel, MSNBC, CNN, CNBC, HLN, FBN.
Top cable news programs (total viewers): 1. Fox News Channel’s “The O’Reilly Factor” (Wednesday, 8 p.m.); Fox News Channel’s “The O’Reilly Factor” (Monday, 8 p.m.); 3. Fox News Channel’s “The O’Reilly Factor” (Tuesday, 8 p.m.); 4. Fox News Channel’s “Special Report with Bet Baier” (Tuesday, 6 p.m.); 5. Fox News Channel’s “The Kelly File” (Wednesday, 9 p.m.)
LINK
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:00 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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At first glance, comparing some Trump supporters to ex-Confederates may seem absurd, even insulting. But historians say both groups developed an uncanny ability to obscure the role race played in transformative events and to persuade millions of Americans to go along with the charade.
I am dumber for having read this
Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:53 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Preposterous drivel that would be laughable if it wasn't actually believed by a significant number of people. The idea that the South controlled the narrative aided by people eager for reconciliation from the north after the war is itself ridiculous. The north for the most part wanted to punish the south and did so. The north's version is revisionist. The author conveniently leaves out some things and outright lies about others. What it really is about is fear. They are scared. White's have been their whipping boy for quite some time.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:28 pm to Lsuhoohoo
I suppose they forgot about BLM, NAACP, etc at the hag's rallies and all up in the white house .... or did they forget???
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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And they have an ignorant audience that will eat that stuff up
Unfortunately, that's not the full case. Just look at the intellectuals that spew and believe all of this. By osmosis, they all believe the same.
My hope is that they turn on themselves at some point.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:32 pm to Lsuhoohoo
This will enrage all 10k of their viewers!
Posted on 12/28/16 at 11:06 pm to boomertoomer
Stiglitz is getting owned up in this thread.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 7:05 am to bencoleman
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Preposterous drivel that would be laughable if it wasn't actually believed by a significant number of people.
While I disagree with the comparison to Trump voters, CNN is half correct. There was such a narrative developed in the South after the Civil War. It was called the "Lost Cause" movement. It was a kind of psychological coping mechanism invented to help Southerners with the death of the planter class system and the other ramifications of the Civil War. Some excellent books have been written on the subject. "Baptized in Blood" by Charles Wilson and "Ghosts of the Confederacy" by Gaines Foster are really good reads.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 7:49 am to AUveritas
I'd have to say that I'm skeptical. I've read extensively on the subject. Mostly northern or southern writers from the time period. Not once has it ever been mentioned. I felt that in order to get a clear picture of what went on I needed to get the story from both sides. To arrive at their conclusion you'd have to ignore the writings of the people that lived through it. The only narrative that I've ever seen is the northern version
Posted on 12/29/16 at 7:59 am to bencoleman
The reason I named these 2 books is that they were the most extensively researched I'd read on the topic, using mainly primary Southern sources. The Lost Cause movement is as historically accepted as something can be. In fact, the tenets of the movement still pervade Southern culture. Wilson argues that it was almost a religious movement. There were large meetings with hymns (like Dixie), saints (Stonewall Jackson, Robert E Lee, etc.), holy days/holidays (Confederate Memorial Day) and near worship of religious relics (items like Jefferson Davis' daughter's Bible were displayed and treated with utmost reverence, even causing grown women to break down and cry upon viewing it). It's fascinating and it almost reached Great Awakening type religious fervor.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:51 am to Lsuhoohoo
OHhhhhh...where can I buy that sweet Confederate flag with Trump 2016 on there?
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
I turned to CNN once this year, just to watch them melt on election night. That was prime TV!
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:59 am to Damone
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At first glance, comparing some Trump supporters to ex-Confederates may seem absurd, even insulting. But historians say both groups developed an uncanny ability to obscure the role race played in transformative events and to persuade millions of Americans to go along with the charade.
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I am dumber for having read this
No not at all. (unless you came close to believing it, or didn't chuckle and shake your just head a little)
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:01 am to AUveritas
I'm not doubting that people felt that way. I'm saying that a northerner looking at such and not understanding southern culture could get the wrong impression. I was born and raised in the sixties and seventies. Believe it or not the wounds were still deep and painful. My grandmother was born in 1910, my grandfather was born in 1900 and my great grandmother died around that time at a 103. I sat and listened to them talk. They were no nonsense country people who could spot bullshite a mile away. I heard things from them that isn't in any history books. The idea that the South drove this false narrative goes against everything I've ever learned about history. The victor writes the history books and controls the narrative. This instance is no different. The north has driven the narrative down here for my lifetime. I also love the part about sympathetic northerners eager for reconciliation allowed this to go on. Those compassionate northerners had no problem visiting reconstruction on their southern neighbors. No I don't buy it. It's just as much a fantasy as Trump being elected by a white supremacist movement.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:50 am to bencoleman
That's why I said he uses primary sources, including Southern speeches, minutes from United Daughters of the Confederacy meetings, etc. I'm sure you've heard things like "Slaves weren't mistreated. They were like part of the family" or "The Civil War had nothing to do with slavery". These were just a couple of dogmatic myths that were created during that period. I agree that often, the victors get to whitewash the history books but there are too many Southern sources for it.
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 10:38 am
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