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CNN: GOP on verge of losing health care vote. Names 21 Reps now opposing the bill

Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:38 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:38 pm
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Whip count: Republicans who oppose new health care bill
By MJ Lee, Lauren Fox and Deirdre Walsh, CNN
Updated 5:17 PM ET, Mon May 1, 2017


(CNN) - Republicans are two votes away from another failure on their efforts to repeal and replace Obamacare.

House leaders need 216 Republican "yes" votes to get the legislation through the House, since no Democrats are expected to support the bill.

According to CNN's whip count, 21 House Republicans have said they will vote against the new version of the bill. Republicans can lose up to 22 votes and still pass their legislation. If 23 Republicans vote against it, then it would likely not be able to pass.

Another 13 Republicans have told CNN they are undecided. That's at least 34 lawmakers publicly opposed to or undecided on the bill.
The following whip count continues to be updated as news develops.

"No" (21)
Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (Washington)
Rep. Barbara Comstock (Virginia)
Rep. Jeff Denham (California)
Rep. Charlie Dent (Pennsylvania)
Rep. Dan Donovan (New York)
Rep. John Katko (New York)
Rep. Leonard Lance (New Jersey)
Rep. Frank LoBiondo (New Jersey)
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Florida)
Rep. Tom Massie (Kentucky)
Rep. Andy Biggs (Arizona)
Rep. Michael Turner (Ohio)
Rep. David Young (Iowa)
Rep. Walter Jones (North Carolina)
Rep. Ryan Costello (Pennsylvania)
Rep. Patrick Meehan (Pennsylvania)
Rep. Billy Long (Missouri)
Rep. Mark Amodei (Nevada)
Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (Pennsylvania)
Rep. Daniel Webster (Florida)
Rep. Chris Smith (New Jersey)

Undecided (13)
Rep. Fred Upton (Michigan)
Rep. Mike Bost (Illinois)
Rep. Mike Coffman (Colorado)
Rep. Carlos Curbelo (Florida)
Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (Florida)
Rep. David McKinley (West Virginia)
Rep. Tim Murphy (Pennsylvania)
Rep. Jim Renacci (Ohio)
Rep. Brian Mast (Florida)
Rep. Darrell Issa (California)
Rep. Adam Kinzinger (Illinois)
Rep. Tom Reed (New York)
Rep. Rob Wittman (Virginia)

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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69306 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:41 pm to
These 21 goobers need to be disappeared, Argentina style
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

According to CNN's whip count, 21 House Republicans have said they will vote against the new version of the bill. Republicans can lose up to 22 votes and still pass their legislation. If 23 Republicans vote against it, then it would likely not be able to pass.

Another 13 Republicans have told CNN they are undecided.

Undecided (13)
Rep. Fred Upton (Michigan)
Rep. Mike Bost (Illinois)
Rep. Mike Coffman (Colorado)
Rep. Carlos Curbelo (Florida)
Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (Florida)
Rep. David McKinley (West Virginia)
Rep. Tim Murphy (Pennsylvania)
Rep. Jim Renacci (Ohio)
Rep. Brian Mast (Florida)
Rep. Darrell Issa (California)
Rep. Adam Kinzinger (Illinois)
Rep. Tom Reed (New York)
Rep. Rob Wittman (Virginia)

yeah, they are fricked.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:41 pm to
I don't even bother reading into any of these GOP healthcare deals these days. None of them will ever happen.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

These 21 goobers need to be disappeared, Argentina style


seriously?why?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69306 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:43 pm to
Because they are letting perfect be the enemy of good. If your district voted for trump by 40 points you can do what you want and not worry about reelection chances. No excuse not to support it
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:44 pm to
The Repubs in congress really deserve what they get in the mid-terms if they can't manage to simply do what they ALREADY DID under Obama.

I will have zero sympathy.
Posted by silverdude
Member since Mar 2017
216 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:44 pm to
anybody with a brain cell knew this health care vote was not happening. This bill is even worse than the 1st Trumpcare bill, which had no support.

Even if it did pass, it is dead on arrival in the Senate.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 4:48 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (Washington)
Rep. Barbara Comstock (Virginia)
Rep. Jeff Denham (California)
Rep. Charlie Dent (Pennsylvania)
Rep. Dan Donovan (New York)
Rep. John Katko (New York)
Rep. Leonard Lance (New Jersey)
Rep. Frank LoBiondo (New Jersey)
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Florida)
Rep. Tom Massie (Kentucky)
Rep. Andy Biggs (Arizona)
Rep. Michael Turner (Ohio)
Rep. David Young (Iowa)
Rep. Walter Jones (North Carolina)
Rep. Ryan Costello (Pennsylvania)
Rep. Patrick Meehan (Pennsylvania)
Rep. Billy Long (Missouri)
Rep. Mark Amodei (Nevada)
Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (Pennsylvania)
Rep. Daniel Webster (Florida)
Rep. Chris Smith (New Jersey)


21 republicans that want ObamaCare to stay.

They need to be primaried.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:46 pm to
I thought CNN was all lies and fake news?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

Because they are letting perfect be the enemy of good.


Yep.

Pass this bill to start chipping away at ObamaCare and then keep improving on it to make it a more perfect product. Death by a thousand cuts.

Some republicans want ObamaCare and its free shite to stay, some want the purity cannonball shot to completely kill it and return to pre ACA healthcare.

frick them.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:49 pm to
You have it wrong. They wont vote for an even worse bill.

You set up straw man.

HailhailtoMich needs a visit from the pottymouth patrol.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52798 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

I thought CNN was all lies and fake news?




Being stupid isn't an admirable trait, mudminnow. Rather than debating anything, that's what you focused on? Good job, sport.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:50 pm to
7 years of non stop bitching and I thought by now they would have concocted a brilliant health care bill that will appease to everyone. They had 7 years to do something. What did they do besides bitch non stop about Obama care and Obamas birth certficate?
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:50 pm to
Culberson finally shat and/or got off the pot?
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:51 pm to
The latest budget is in the same bad shape. Brute force does not impress senators.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

Yep. Pass this bill to start chipping away at ObamaCare and then keep improving on it to make it a more perfect product. Death by a thousand cuts.


What's funny is, liberals are absolutely tenacious about this approach.

I'm not giving the purists OR the non-purists a pass though.

Those fricking non-purists PASSED repeal MULTIPLE times.

So, while the purists may be making the perfect the enemy of the good, they aren't the ones who fricking crawfished on something they ALREADY did!
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

Because they are letting perfect be the enemy of good. If your district voted for trump by 40 points you can do what you want and not worry about reelection chances. No excuse not to support it


I haven't googled it but I know both Issa and Coffman barely won.

The bill isn't very good IMHO. I think you would be better off with a straight repeal, keeping the bill around but killing pieces of it so it implodes is a bad strategy IMHO.

Plus this bill isn't going to get through the senate. Those in swing districts need to consider that.
Posted by silverdude
Member since Mar 2017
216 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:54 pm to
Its simple. The establishment wanted Jeb to win. Once that was done, they figured Hillary would be the winner and they could score free political points for the next 4-8 years talking about repeal and replacing Obamacare while doing absolutely nothing.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:54 pm to
Suggesting Walter Jones should be primaried, a bold new strategy
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