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Climate change through the millenia....Neanderthal version
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:50 am
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:50 am
While reading an interesting article on the migration of Neanderthals, there were several quotes in it which would likely make most "climate change" believers heads explode.
It discusses the roaming and migrations of Neanderthals around the Jersey and Guernsey Islands (Channel Islands) between Europe and the United Kingdom.
For example:
Imagine that! For 200,000 years of the Neanderthals' history sea levels rose and fell due to changes in the Earth's climate.
All the while not a single oil pipeline was built.....that we know of.
It discusses the roaming and migrations of Neanderthals around the Jersey and Guernsey Islands (Channel Islands) between Europe and the United Kingdom.
For example:
quote:LINK
During the 200,000 years (from 240,000 and 40,000 years ago) Neanderthals were using La Cotte, sea levels were often lower than they are today – sometimes radically so.
From at least a quarter of a million years ago, Neanderthal populations can be seen to have persistently and deliberately returned to particular places over tens of thousands of years. This is despite radical climate-driven changes in environment and landscapes. (Note added by me: Neanderthals were not known to have driven SUVs)
Decoding the behaviours taking places during each occupation and reading this record against changing sea level, ....
We also find them present in very different landscapes when the temperatures were warmer and Jersey became a striking high-point in a wide coastal plain connected to France.
Imagine that! For 200,000 years of the Neanderthals' history sea levels rose and fell due to changes in the Earth's climate.
All the while not a single oil pipeline was built.....that we know of.
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:51 am to LSURussian
quote:
migrations of Neanderthals around the Jersey
so that's where guidos come from...
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:52 am to LSURussian
quote:
which would likely make most "climate change" believers heads explode
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:55 am to LSURussian
Climate change is 100% natural.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:55 am to LSURussian
What about that sarcastic map maker who named that icey tundra Greenland...
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:59 am to LSURussian
Problem is obama populated EPA with cro- magnons
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:00 am to Iosh
quote:I understand it's always a challenge to change someone's mind regarding their religious beliefs.
Iosh
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:09 am to LSURussian
I don't support the climate change people, but your post shows that you must not even understand their argument.
You can't know that you disagree with something until you know what their point is.
You can't know that you disagree with something until you know what their point is.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:10 am to LSURussian
quote:You're absolutely savaging that straw man. Keep it up, the exercise will do you good.
I understand it's always a challenge to change someone's mind regarding their religious beliefs.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:11 am to AnonymousTiger
quote:So tell me what their argument is.
you must not even understand their argument.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:11 am to Iosh
quote:Carnage?
You're absolutely savaging that straw man.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:16 am to LSURussian
OK, they are not saying that there was no climate change without human activity. No one on either side claims this.
Their argument is that recent human activity has exacerbated the heating (i.e. We are the cause) and that it is dramatically accelerating (i.e. their "hockey stick" chart).
The difference between the two sides is whether human activity is causing this increase, and if so, how much.
Their argument is that recent human activity has exacerbated the heating (i.e. We are the cause) and that it is dramatically accelerating (i.e. their "hockey stick" chart).
The difference between the two sides is whether human activity is causing this increase, and if so, how much.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:17 am to LSURussian
quote:The argument is "human emissions are the primary cause of the current warming trend."
So tell me what their argument is.
Pointing out that there have been past warming trends which humans have not caused does not disprove this premise, any more than the fact that asteroids have caused mass extinctions disproves humanity's present impacts on biodiversity.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:19 am to LSURussian
Only a functioning retard (or a Democrat) doesn't believe this has been happening since the beginning of time.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:20 am to AnonymousTiger
quote:Yet they are claiming the science is settled, stop questioning it. They are wrong. It's a scientific principle to question unproven theories.
Their argument is that recent human activity has exacerbated the heating..
he difference between the two sides is whether human activity is causing this increase..
That makes them scientific hypocrites.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:21 am to Iosh
It shows bigger changes did not "destroy the planet".
And it is your fricking religion
And it is your fricking religion
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:22 am to LSURussian
Must have been all of those Neanderthal factories and SUV's that caused all of that climate change.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:23 am to LSURussian
I don't understand what this proves or doesn't prove.
We all know climate changes over time, naturally.
We all know the current climate is changes. What we don't know, is whether or not man is the main driver behind it, as in some instances the change seems to be at an accelerated rate.
We all know climate changes over time, naturally.
We all know the current climate is changes. What we don't know, is whether or not man is the main driver behind it, as in some instances the change seems to be at an accelerated rate.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:25 am to gthog61
quote:Which would be a devastating disproof of the theory that AGW will "destroy the planet." A theory held by Hollywood actors and your average liberal undergrad, but not by actual scientists or economists, who simply believe it will be very costly.
It shows bigger changes did not "destroy the planet".
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:25 am to Iosh
quote:
Pointing out that there have been past warming trends which humans have not caused does not disprove this premise,
It shifts the burden of proof. That's basic argumentation logic. Maybe this will help you understand.
Premise: Half of the calves born in 2016 had 3 heads. This has never happened before therefore there is something in the environment of cattle ranches causing this.
Response: Damn. You might be on to something there.
OTOH...
Premise: It's 1 degree warmer F than it was 150 years ago therefore it's man made GW.
Response: That's a normal historical fluctuation. Prove that it's caused by man.
You lose.
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