Civil War Dead - Remembering them this Memorial Week

Hurrah for those who fought for Union, progress and freedom.

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I don't get the adoration for the Confederacy. I get loving the South and being proud of the South and Southern Pride. I don't get the adoration for the Confederacy, a misguided venture instigated by wealthy planters afraid they would lose their slaves.

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There is no upside to the worship of those who went down fighting tooth and nail for the cause of being backwards.

There should be no commemoration at all in this country of those who fired on Old Glory.

Is it not common to honor the dead of both sides in battle? The common confederate soldier isn't the big bad racist wolf that you are looking to find.

How does honoring the dead affect the perpetually offended such as yourself? Does flower and wreath laying in Ms and Alabama do anything at all to you or anyone that you know? And I mean concrete things, not feels or emotion.

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Giving respect for their sacrifices is not equivalent to worship you dolts.

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Does all sacrifice deserve respect?

The 19 9/11 hijackers sacrificed a lot. Should we honor their sacrifices too? Should we put up there statues so we don't "forget our history"?

That is one of the worst examples of false equivalence to ever grace this topic. Which is saying something.

Congrats on eliminating yourself from any rational discussion.

Oh, and it's "their"*

Interesting how things develop:

My intention in starting this thread was not to relitigate the Civil War, simply to Honor the sacrifices of the dead.

I picked this particular short video as it displays both the Northern and Southern Soldiers demonstrating their courage after the war as they themselves remember their Comrades Together.

Nothing else but this:

Was It Not As in the Old Days

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Were they American Citizens before their acts

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No. Are you trying to say the 9/11 hijackers were better than confederate soldiers because they didn't betray their country first?

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Johnny Reb didn't target civilians.

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Johnny Reb enslaved people and fought to continue doing so.

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You're a piece of shite trying to compare everyday men and boys fighting for their State to fricking terrorists.
Seriously, frick You.

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You're angry. Perhaps your traitorous ancestors died a traitor's death.

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Were they American Citizens before their acts?

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So Timothy McVeigh statues?

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Johnny Reb didn't target civilians. 

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They attacked America. The rest is simply arguing over which part of our citizenship suffered the most.

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Johnny Reb didn't target civilians.

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Sir: "I have the honor to report that I was with the command of Brevet Major- General Burbridge in the attack on Saltville, Va., October 2, 1864, and that I was left with the wounded and was captured October 3, and paroled by Major-General Breckinridge."

"I would state that on Monday morning, October 3, there came to our field hospital several armed men, as I believe soldiers in the Confederate service, and took 5 men, privates, wounded (negroes), and shot them."

"I would further state that on Friday evening, October 7, at Emory and Henry College Hospital, Washington County, Va., to which place our wounded had been removed, several armed men entered the said hospital about 10 p.m. and went up into the rooms occupied by the Federal wounded prisoners, and shot 2 of them (negroes) dead in their beds."

"I would further state that on Saturday, October 8, at Emory and Henry College Hospital, several armed men wearing the Confederate uniform, and, as I believe, soldiers in the Confederate service, entered the same hospital about 4 p.m., overpowered the guard that had been placed there by the surgeon in charge, and went up into the rooms occupied by the Federal wounded prisoners, and shot Lieut. E. C. Smith, Thirteenth Regiment Kentucky Cavalry, dead in his bed, where he lay severely wounded.

They at the same time called out for the other Federal officers confined there, particularly Colonel Hanson, Thirty- Seventh Regiment Kentucky Volunteers, and Captain Degenfeld, Twelfth Ohio Cavalry, swearing that they intended to kill all of them; and I believe that they were only prevented doing so by the exertions of Surgeon Murfree, the surgeon in charge, the steward, Mr. Acres, and the other attendants of the hospital. I would also further state that Surgeon Murfree, the other surgeons, and the hospital attendants did all in their power, even at the risk of their lives, to prevent the perpetration of these outrages; and that they assisted in removing Colonel Hanson and Captain Degenfeld, as well as myself, to a place of safety."

"I would further state that we left about 70 of our wounded prisoners in the said hospital, and that I have been informed that these outrages have been perpetuated on them since we left there." "Respectfully, your obedient servant, WM. H. GARDNER, Surgeon, Thirtieth Regiment Kentucky Volunteer Infantry"

[Source: Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies, Series I, Vol. XXXIX, Part I, pp. 554-555.]

"Upon the capture of Plymouth by the rebel forces all the negroes found in blue uniform, or with any outward signs of a Union soldier upon him, was killed. I saw some taken into the woods and hung. Others I saw stripped of all their clothing and then stood upon the bank of the river with their faces riverward and there they were shot. Still others were killed by having their brains beaten out by the butt end of the in the hands of the rebels. All were not killed the day of the capture. Those that were not were placed in a room with their officers, they (the officers) having previously been dragged through the town with ropes around their necks, where they were kept confined until the following morning, when the remainder of the black soldiers were killed."

"The regiments most conspicuous in these murderous transactions were the Eighth North Carolina and, I think, the Sixth North Carolina."

"SAMUEL (his x mark) JOHNSON.

Witnessed by John L. Davenport, lieutenant and acting aide-de-camp. Sworn and subscribed to before me this 11th day of July, 1864. John Cassels, Captain and Provost- Marshal." [Source: Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies, Series II, Vol. VII, pp. 459-460.]