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Civil asset forfeiture on illegal aliens
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:32 am
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:32 am
Why don't we implement this policy towards illegal aliens? Say an illegal is pulled over while driving, why don't we take his car and all his valuables? They do it for prostitution and drug busts, so why not add this to it? Illegal immigrants come here mostly for economic reasons, if they stand to lose everything they own like this they'll certainly do everything they can to make sure they're here legally. Businesses will also think twice entrusting illegal aliens with valuable work equipment knowing that they're risking losing it if ICE shows up.
I'm not a fan of civil asset forfeiture, but I think it would be easy, straightforward, and effective here. I apologize if it's already being used by the gov, but I'm on my phone and the idea popped into my head.
I'm not a fan of civil asset forfeiture, but I think it would be easy, straightforward, and effective here. I apologize if it's already being used by the gov, but I'm on my phone and the idea popped into my head.
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:36 am to TreyAnastasio
I hate CAF, but it does raise an interesting question. What do you do if you deport an illegal that has assets here? What happens if he has bought a car or even a house? I would like to know the answer to this.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 11:41 am
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:38 am to Ham Solo
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What happens if he has bought a car or even a house
It should go to the county/city it is in and auctioned off. Let them keep their cash and send them packing. No need to rob them. CAF is horse crap anyway.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:41 am to MrLarson
At the very least they should have to pay for the costs of their deportation and court stuff out of their own pocket.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:42 am to Malik Agar
quote:Because it's an inherently reprehensible policy, so it doesn't get unreprehensible because a person is here illegally.
Why don't we implement this policy towards illegal aliens?
And if you want to argue that their illegal status is justification, then why wouldn't it be justifiable to use on other criminals, especially convicted felons?
I'm sure it would be nice to take Michael Vick's possessions. And since he is a convicted (had his due process) felon, which is legally considered far more serious than illegal immigration (a misdemeanor), why not steal his possessions then?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:43 am to MrLarson
Most of the smarter ones put their houses and cars in their mom's name.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:44 am to Malik Agar
quote:Why stop there? Why not every single crime?
Why don't we implement this policy towards illegal aliens? Say an illegal is pulled over while driving, why don't we take his car and all his valuables? They do it for prostitution and drug busts, so why not add this to it?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:46 am to Ham Solo
quote:If it is something obtained through a legal transaction (can an illegal immigrant legally buy a house), then I think they should keep it.
What do you do if you deport an illegal that has assets here? What happens if he has bought a car or even a house? I would like to know the answer to this.
But if they can't bring it with them, then they still own it, I guess they just can't use it.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 11:48 am
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:47 am to idlewatcher
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Most of the smarter ones put their houses and cars in their mom's name.
Or a big white girls name
Up until now most of them never worried about getting deported.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:48 am to Iosh
quote:"Excuse me sir. I just saw you leave your residence and jaywalk across the street. I'm going to confiscate your property at this time."
Why stop there? Why not every single crime?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:00 pm to buckeye_vol
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If it is something obtained through a legal transaction (can an illegal immigrant legally buy a house), then I think they should keep it. But if they can't bring it with them, then they still own it, I guess they just can't use it.
Did they obtain the property under false pretenses (representing themselves as an American citizen)?
Do they have a "right" to the property acquired after they illegally entered the country? I agree that that CAF is disgusting to use on US citizens, but I am not sure an illegal should be afforded the same protections that I would like to be extended to americans.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:01 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Excuse me sir. I just saw you leave your residence and jaywalk across the street. I'm going to confiscate your property at this time."
If you found $20 on the ground while jaywalking, then I'd be ok with it being confiscated. Every dollar an illegal earns while he is here illegally is basically the same thing. We should steal it from them.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:54 pm to TreyAnastasio
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We shouldnt use it on anyone. Its disgraceful.
This This This
It is theft. Period.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:14 pm to TreyAnastasio
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We shouldnt use it on anyone. Its disgraceful.
Illegal Aliens have no Right to Ownership of Anything on American soil. By being here illegally they are illegally in possession of everything they, at the very least their possessions are fruit of their crime.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:16 pm to Malik Agar
Legal transaction they should keep it.
Illegal? Bye bye
Illegal? Bye bye
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:24 pm to llfshoals
quote:
Legal transaction they should keep it.
Illegal? Bye bye
If the buyer is illegally present how can they purchase something legally?
Would you allow an escaped prison inmate who hides for a few years to retain ownership of stuff he got during his illegal "freedom"?
How about if I break into your house, use your resources, including identity, for gain? I get to keep it then right?
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:41 pm to Malik Agar
No, any civil asset forfeiture only justifies the expansion of it later on. It was originally intended to seize Lambos and Cigarette Boats and that kind of shite and now some jurisdictions seize family homes or church donations.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:44 pm to Malik Agar
quote:You don't think there might be just a teeny tiny incentive problem with allowing police to confiscate a person's property on mere suspicion of a crime? In this scenario you're saying an officer can assert "you jaywalked, I'm taking all the cash you have on you until you can prove to a judge you didn't pick it up crossing the street."
If you found $20 on the ground while jaywalking, then I'd be ok with it being confiscated.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:51 pm to Sidicous
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If the buyer is illegally present how can they purchase something legally?
I don't view that as the same. Plus I don't want the government at any point having the right to take peoples money no matter if they are here legally or not.
I don't look at the immigration problem through a vindictive eye. Why would take all of their stuff and throw them out? You are only creating a bigger problem for the Mexican government in sending people back that can't buy anything.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:58 pm to MrLarson
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I don't view that as the same. Plus I don't want the government at any point having the right to take peoples money no matter if they are here legally or not.
I don't look at the immigration problem through a vindictive eye. Why would take all of their stuff and throw them out? You are only creating a bigger problem for the Mexican government in sending people back that can't buy anything.
There should be ZERO profit as the result of criminal activity. Acquiring assets while illegally present is allowing crime to pay.
Mexico dealing broke people is a Mexican problem, not our concern at all. Mexico's problems are for Mexicans to fix. Feel free to contribute your own money to poor Mexicans, keep your hands off mine!
That is not vindictive at all. Punitive maybe, but not vindictive.
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