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re: CITIZENS Had to THROW CHAIRS at Terrorists Because UNARMED POLICE RAN AWAY

Posted on 6/4/17 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 1:56 pm to
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There is actually a difference between a PCSO (community police - basically, the people who would be out stopping drunks) and a normal officer. The statement isn't clear on what the person saw



No there isn't you ignorant arse
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 1:59 pm to
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No there isn't you ignorant arse


Come again?

quote:

What is the difference between a PCSO and a police officer?

PCSOs do not have powers of arrest, cannot interview or process prisoners, cannot investigate crime and do not carry out the more complex and high-risk tasks that police officers perform.


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This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 2:04 pm
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

There is actually a difference between a PCSO (community police - basically, the people who would be out stopping drunks) and a normal officer. The statement isn't clear on what the person saw.


If a "normal officer" is a minority of the police force, perhaps they aren't best defined as the "normal officer."
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 2:03 pm to
A cop is a cop. Most of them over there aren't armed. It's been discussed in this thread already.
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 2:04 pm to
Stop showing your ignorance.

I fricking live in Wales (at least for the next few months) and have since 2013.
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 2:19 pm to
Maybe let's stop focusing on the semantics and the official titles of the police officers, and examine their role in today's world.

This is the second terrorist attack in a large British city in about a month, there have been incidents all across Europe recently (past several years), it's an ongoing issue in today's society.

It certainly sounds like there were "officers" on site, right at the very beginning of the incident. If they were injured trying to disarm a man with a knife, then bravo to them for their courage, and shame on the government that put these unarmed men out there in that situation. Like someone said, even a baseball bat would have been an upgrade over the tools they had to work with.

Issuing a police officer a pistol and training him to use it won't turn him/her into a monster, despite the propaganda we hear around here in the US. The vast majority "protect and serve", with pride.

Given the world we live in, it's the least a responsible government can do for it's populace.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 2:19 pm to
What the duck are you talking about?

Oh, you read "gateway pundit". Why do you intentionally mislead yourself?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 2:48 pm to
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fricking live in Wales (at least for the next few months) and have since 2013



I don't give a frick. What part of most of the cops in England aren't armed isn't true?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 2:51 pm to
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PCSOs do not have powers of arrest, cannot interview or process prisoners, cannot investigate crime and do not carry out the more complex and high-risk tasks that police officers perform


You just described a meter maid



Today only a small proportion of officers are authorised to use firearms. Latest Home Office figures show there were just 6,653 officers authorised to use firearms in England and Wales - about 5% of the total number
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 6/4/17 at 4:30 pm to
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Tuscaloosa


You are really dumb.

Most of Londons cop are only armed with a whistle.
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 4:32 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:20 am to
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bencoleman


Seriously, can you read?

At no point did I argue for or against arming British police (note: I think they should be armed).

I made two statements in this thread:

1. The OP is bullshite

2. There is a difference between PCSOs (community police) and a normal police officer.

You attacked me for statement two. Your first response was out of pure ignorance. Your latest responses have tried to completely change what my original statement was about. Just accept that you were wrong.


And to the OP: stop slandering an entire police force based on one line in one report.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 8:21 am
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 8:30 am to
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Liberals are so stupid!



...

What do Liberals have to do with UK community cops not having guns?
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 2:14 pm to
Bump, as both ben and butterfly are posting...
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 2:46 pm to
5% or 6500 police officers are armed in England. Are you telling me that those are the only ones authorized to make an arrest? You're the ignorant one here.

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:02 pm to
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5% or 6500 police officers are armed in England


Well if only 5% are armed and the were able to mobilize armed response to these attacks in 8 miutes they did a FANTASTIC job!!!

I wish the police in NOLA had an 8 minute response time to quell armed incidents.......

That would be a good start.
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:37 pm to
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5% or 6500 police officers are armed in England. Are you telling me that those are the only ones authorized to make an arrest? You're the ignorant one here.


Again, you're changing the subject. I pointed out that 'community police' (PCSOs) are different from normal police. I said nothing about the question of arming police. You attacked me for making that statement.
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