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re: Christie Says Transgender Procedures on Minors Should Be Allowed If Parents Consent
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:43 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:43 am to AggieHank86
quote:You keep ignoring the other parts, and bring up more exemptions. For such a high minded intellectual you sure need a lot of stuff explained to you.
Where did I "slice" anything?
But I get it. I’d avoid any argument of merit if I were you too. Genital mutilation is hard to defend.
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 9:44 am
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Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:45 am to AggieHank86
quote:
I have said DOZENS of times on this forum that we are too quick to turn to PHYSICAL transition as the default treatment
Yet the below is essentially the same thing as a physical transition in terms of harm caused. And YOU support that.
quote:
Medical treatments such as puberty blockers are a different issue, because they are "less irreversible" ... if that terminology makes sense. "Partially reversible?"
You are basically contradicting yourself.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:49 am to jimmy the leg
quote:JFC you are stupid. Not for disagreeing with me, because reasonable and intelligent people CAN disagree. You are "stupid" because you are apparently essentially incapable of understanding the words that flow from my keyboard.
You are basically contradicting yourself.
quote:How hard is this to understand?
1. First line of attack in treating/addressing gender dysphoria should be non-medical and non-surgical.
2. If non-medical and non-surgical approaches do not prove efficacious, the NEXT line of attack should be medical, but non-surgical, for the reasons outlined above.
3. A surgical approach should be taken only if steps 1 and 2 are ineffective, and only after the age of majority.
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 10:47 am
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:52 am to Taxing Authority
quote:I did not raise the "exceptions." In each case, some moron made an inapposite and legally-wrong argument, and I asked that said moron provide support for his (wrong) assertion.quote:You keep ignoring the other parts, and bring up more exemptions.
Where did I "slice" anything?
If we are going to discuss an issue, we should do so with REAL data, not fabrications that some idiot pulled out of his arse.
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 10:05 am
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:59 am to ItzMe1972
next comes the sex....
Democrats, this is why you are called groomers.
Democrats, this is why you are called groomers.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:11 am to AggieHank86
quote:
AggieHank86
Since you are the board know it all, I would like Mr. Peabody and Sherman to use the Wayback Machine and transport you back in time to prevent the American Civil War.
One condition, you have to stay there. It may be a self fulfilling prophecy that you actually by your actions, start the war.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:12 am to ItzMe1972
Christie needs to GTFO of Republican politics. He has way outlived his moment in the sun. Now he just seems to be a RINO who won’t go away.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:18 am to AggieHank86
quote:
we should do so with REAL data,
Child trannies have the highest rate of mental illness and your beliefs are reaponsible.
You do not have the soul to understand why this is harmful to people. Socially awkward people have some fricked up beliefs.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Yes, Roger, kids with gender dysphoria have a very high incidence of mental and emotional health problems. This is not some revelation.
Child trannies have the highest rate of mental illness .... You do not have the soul to understand why this is harmful to people.
The issue is "How do we ADDRESS those problems?"
The study cited above shows that medical (non-surgical) treatment is VERY effective in addressing clinical depression (60% reduction) and suicide/self-harm (73% reduction). Yet you oppose that treatment.
It sounds to ME as if it is YOU who "lacks the soul" to help these kids.
quote:Please explain how TREATING those pre-existing problems in a proven-effective manner "causes" the problems, while REFUSING to treat them is somehow a "good thing."
your beliefs are (sic) reaponsible (for those mental health problems)
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 10:39 am
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:37 am to ItzMe1972
Not that anyone was voting for him, but that’s an automatic disqualifier.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:41 am to tarzana
I am much closer to this than seeing it on television that is made to parrot emotional stories that people like you are sucked into. The son of a good friend just committed suicide after going through this ridiculous therapy. Another friend of a friend has spiraled down after visiting a physician that within two sessions started hormone therapy on him. We fear for his life.
So I am going to tell you "F your 'time out'!"
The 6 year old does not need gender affirming treatment. The child needs a psychiatrist that is skilled in gender dysmorphia treatment that has proven success at treating the underlying mental illness. Before the radicals grabbed this and took over, children across the country experienced gender dysmorphia and were treated and went on to live normal lives.
Not today, liberals have made this a political issue and children that should be protected from this BS are the ones being sacrificed.
Shame on you.
So I am going to tell you "F your 'time out'!"
The 6 year old does not need gender affirming treatment. The child needs a psychiatrist that is skilled in gender dysmorphia treatment that has proven success at treating the underlying mental illness. Before the radicals grabbed this and took over, children across the country experienced gender dysmorphia and were treated and went on to live normal lives.
Not today, liberals have made this a political issue and children that should be protected from this BS are the ones being sacrificed.
Shame on you.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:28 am to AggieHank86
quote:
The issue is "How do we ADDRESS those problems?"
As adults, you should know the answer..
Your kids look to you for values and understanding. Gender dysphoria is a tiny pctg of the population, your current trannies are a fad pushed by adults onto children.
This may be a shock to you, but adults are supposed to guide children, not capitulate to fantasy. You are supposed to be the gatekeeper.
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 11:45 am
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:30 am to AggieHank86
quote:
TREATING those pre-existing problems
The mental problems are most prevalent in the adults pushing this on children. The kids will be depressed, anxious and suicidal, and its the fault of you idiots who are socially incompetent..
You fail to understand that kids are less than adults, and its the adults who are supposed to guide children, not capitulate to fantasy.
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 11:34 am
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:32 am to deathvalleytiger10
quote:
I am much closer to this than seeing it on television that is made to parrot emotional stories that people like you are sucked into.
I am as well. My granddaughter has a friend (they are 15 now) who has been utterly destroyed by the local gay community.
Hes welcome at my home any time my granddaughter is home. Hes a good kid who is beyond fricked up though, but I do see some improvement in his mental status this summer.
Without the gay men pushing trannyism on the boy, his early teen years would have been so much better.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:23 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
So, huge improvements in depression and suicidal thoughts
Define “huge.”
Link to the actual data set - including sample size?
Roger spelled out viable options.
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:25 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:60% and 73%, respectively.
So, huge improvements in depression and suicidal thoughtsquote:
Define “huge.”
That is a LOT of improvement in a LOT of young lives.
quote:It is discussed in the linked article, which you clearly did not bother to read.
Link to the actual data set - including sample size?
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:32 pm to ItzMe1972
Parents can't consent to child abuse. frick that fried chicken-eating behemoth.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 1:29 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Most of those “studies” suck. They compare only to “do nothing”. Surgical treatments often come with pre-op foundling and the effects aren’t separated from the surgery. But hey it makes for some tasty bait.
60% and 73%, respectively.
That is a LOT of improvement in a LOT of young lives.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 1:52 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
Most of those “studies” suck. They compare only to “do nothing”. Surgical treatments often come with pre-op foundling and the effects aren’t separated from the surgery.
the increased rate of depression among trans kids who had treatment has been blamed on conservatives.
quote:
Nearly half of LGBTQ youth seriously considered suicide, survey finds
Most of the depression and anxiety comes from Adults forcing young males into roles that goes against their programming.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 2:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
If you support giving puberty blockers to minors and pushing kids into a suicide cult you should be excluded from polite society, full stop
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