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Cato Institute's interesting take on "countering terrorism"

Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:41 pm
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:41 pm
Cato Institute is traditionally a right leaning think tank, but their recent (as in past 24 hours) take on terrorism and corresponding tweets are interesting.

Countering Terrorism: Cato Institute

Main points:
GAO study on terrorism notes that 73% of terrorism incidents come from far right groups, compared to 27% from Islamic extremists.
quote:

Of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent)


Georgia State study determines that Muslim attacks get roughly 450% more coverage.
quote:

We examined news coverage from LexisNexis Academic and CNN.com for all terrorist attacks in the United States between 2011 and 2015. Controlling for target type, fatalities, and being arrested, attacks by Muslim perpetrators received, on average, 449% more coverage than other attacks. Given the disproportionate quantity of news coverage for these attacks, it is no wonder that people are afraid of the Muslim terrorist. More representative media coverage could help to bring public perception of terrorism in line with reality.


Also addresses "terrorist profile" concept.


Found it super interesting that the Cato Institute would be actively promoting these numbers.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:42 pm to
Both numbers are wrong

I would say the largest percentage of terrorist attacks are perpetrated neither by muslims nor the far right, but by CIA planned false flag operations
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:46 pm to
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Cato Institute is traditionally a right leaning think tank,
This is false. They are a libertarian think tank that has always promoted free trade, free immigration, etc.

Cato was a libertarian roman senator who represented casear's most strident opposition.
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:46 pm to
Cato is a full libertarian think tank
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Cato Institute is traditionally a right leaning think tan
Nope.

quote:

GAO study on terrorism notes that 73% of terrorism incidents come from far right groups, compared to 27% from Islamic extremists.
Silly. Not all incidents are equal. Islamic-inspired acts tend to be larger is scope and more violent, designed specifically to...

quote:

get roughly 450% more coverage.
Media attention is a direct goal of terrorism. You can't terrorize a population without he media.
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Cato Institute is traditionally a right leaning think tank,


No it isn't.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69294 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:49 pm to
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Silly. Not all incidents are equal. Islamic-inspired acts tend to be larger is scope and more violent, designed specifically to...
Not only that, but this country (and the west) has far more conservatives and right wingers than muslims.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:50 pm to
What do you consider "far right"?

What would you call the BLM arse hole that murder cops in dallas?

What would you call the brothers in the Boston bombing?

Is the "far left" exempt with any blood on their hands?
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Shunface
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:52 pm to
Only damned fool would believe that horseshite about Muslim extremists being responsible for 27% if terrorist attacks. That's complete bullshite propaganda.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:53 pm to
Notes:

Fewer overall victims from "right wing" attacks

Right wing attacks continue to include anything under the sovereign citizen label, which is total bullshite

Right wing attacks include ANY violence committed by people involved in white supremacy gangs.

How in the frick are they including the Oregon college shooting as a right wing attack?
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:54 pm to
Libertarians are traditionally right leaning. That is just a fact. I know we have some self proclaimed ones here who like to think that isn't the case.

Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

Cato Institute is traditionally a right leaning think tank,


The Koch Bro's. Did they try to stop Trump?

quote:

Media attention is a direct goal of terrorism


Yup.
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 12:57 pm
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:56 pm to
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Only damned fool would believe that horse shite about Muslim extremists being responsible for 27% if terrorist attacks. That's complete bull shite propaganda


Coming from the GAO? I don't think so. It is one of, if not THE, most respected independent agency. Both sides of the aisle agree on that.

Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 12:58 pm to
Would love a top to bottom audit of the GAO and all the other DC institutions.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 1:00 pm to
Well the GAO's report is bullshite

It may be "violence by extremists" which I'd argue is different from terrorism. But trying to compare Islamic terrorism with white supremacist gang bangers killing a child molester or killing a guard in jail or killing a rival drug dealer is nonetheless moronic.

And again, some of the inclusions are insane. Oregon shooter?
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Would love a top to bottom audit of the GAO and all the other DC institutions.


They do.

quote:

Measurable benefits of GAO work total $49.9 billion, a return of $87 for every dollar invested; at the end of FY 2010, over 80% of the GAO recommendations made in FY 2006 had been implemented
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 1:02 pm to
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They do.


Who did the audit?
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 4/23/17 at 1:05 pm to
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Peer Review Every 3 years, independent organizations perform a peer review of GAO’s system of quality control for work done under generally accepted government auditing standards to determine whether it is suitably designed and operating effectively. The peer review includes a review of audit documentation, tests of functional areas, and staff interviews. The peer reviewers brief the Executive Committee, management, and staff members. Beginning with the 2010 peer review, an international team from supreme audit institutions performs the peer review of both performance and financial audits. Previously, the review of performance audits was conducted separately from the review of financial audits (an international certified public accounting firm conducted the peer review of financial audit engagements).



Peer Reviewed
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 1:07 pm to
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Report of the International Peer Review Team on GAO’s Performance and Financial Audit Practices (prepared by the Office of the Auditor General of Norway), September 2014 Full Report (PDF, 14 pages)


Interesting.
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