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Cassidy-Graham: the Obamacare repeal plan McCain is supporting, explained

Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:43 am
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:43 am
I actually kind of like this plan... Of course Vox shits on the plan but I like the flexibility for each state.

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The senator who cast the final vote to kill Obamacare repeal is unexpectedly helping to revive that effort from the dead.

Sen. John McCain told the Hill Wednesday that he would support a plan offered by Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Bill Cassidy (R-LA) to repeal the Affordable Care Act. And McCain later released a statement clarifying that he supports the bill in concept, but hasn’t seen a final product.

“While I support the concept of the Graham-Cassidy proposal, I want to see the final legislation and understand its impact on the state of Arizona before taking a position,” McCain said in that statement.

The Senate rejected four different Obamacare repeal plans in late July. Cassidy-Graham emerged in the midst of that chaotic process. It’s the last health plan left standing — and also the most extreme.


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The senators who back the bill have spent the past two months selling it as a compromise plan and say it is a way to return power to states, giving local governments more control over how they spend federal dollars.

“We need to let states take care of themselves and give power back to patients,” Cassidy wrote in a mid-July op-ed for the Washington Post. “Let a blue state do a blue thing and a red state such as mine take a different, conservative approach.”

But the most detailed version of the plan we’ve seen so far does much more than that. The proposal would eliminate the health care law’s subsidies for private insurance and end the Medicaid expansion. The health insurance marketplaces would no longer exist as they are envisioned to continue under other Republican proposals.


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Cassidy-Graham would repeal the health care law’s tax credits for middle-income Americans, the cost-sharing reduction subsides for low-income Americans, and the Medicaid expansion in 2020. This makes it a bit more radical than other Republican plans, which leave a (less generous) version of the tax credits in place.

It replaces all those programs with a market-based health care grant program, which would send states a lump sum of money to put toward health care–related purposes.

Under Obamacare, this money has to be spent on providing health insurance. Under Cassidy-Graham, it can be spent on other things. The options include:

1. Funding high-risk pools

2. Sending payments to insurers to “stabilize premiums and promote State health insurance market participation”

3. Make payments directly to health care providers, like doctors and hospitals

4. Funding programs to reduce “out-of-pocket costs, such as copayments, coinsurance, and deductibles, of individuals enrolled in plans offered in the individual market”

5. "To establish or maintain a program or mechanism to help individuals purchase health benefits coverage”

6. Provide “wrap-around” coverage for those already enrolled in a state medical assistance program

Notably absent from any of these options is a requirement to focus funds on low-income populations. This would be a big shift from the Affordable Care Act, which targeted its spending on the lowest-income populations by expanding Medicaid and providing the biggest tax credits on the private marketplace to those who earn the least.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:04 am to
The CBO will score the tens of millions that will lose coverage, see enormous rate increases, McCain will flip and it will be dead. Just another dead man walking proposal.

Which frankly I am a bit shocked because 7 months ago I actually thought Cassidy was one of the sane and well intentioned people in the room. Actually posted that I thought his very early, broad outline was actually in the realm of a workable compromise. His alternative to the mandate was interesting and seemingly compromisable as well. And that one interesting bridge idea is scrapped completely for a re-organizing of the same deck chair proposal that fell apart before.

This just signals what I long suspected, Republicans were great at being the health care opposition party, but they were selling snake oil the whole time and have no actual solutions to the promises they made. They tied a gordion knot and have no clue how to untie it.

The only positive spin I have is this is a nice bumper sticker for these two to point at come re-election and say they tried.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 1:11 am
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:22 am to
The problem is leadership favors the bipartisan effort to help stabilize the insurance markets. The whole damn thing is a bailout for insurance companies. If you really examine the CBOs numbers on estimates of those on Medicaid effected it's laughable to suggest 24 million will lose their coverage.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53436 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:33 am to
Thats BS. The gov created the need for a bail out. Just get the f out of healthcare.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:36 am to
The CBO may put a bit more weight then even I do in the power of the mandate. Which is a lot of what varies these forecasts, but removing it, like the Cassidy-Graham plan proposes, while mandating insurers still cover certain coverages, reducing subsidies, and ignoring pre-existing conditions, will as Sarah Kliff points out, cause many healthy people to free ride until they need it and drive up the overall cost of insurance for many in the individual market. As risk pools get riskier and thus more expensive. So your loss in the individual market will come from some people gambling and choosing to risk non-coverage, and others just priced out of affordability.

You can nitpick whether it's 16 or 20 or 24 million, as you will find different forecasts if you look at S&P or the CBO for instance, but if you cut Medicaid funding, reduce subsidies, remove the stick that gets healthy people into the pools, millions will lose coverage. Millions will have more expensive coverage out of their pockets as a result as well.

It's not a bailout for insurance companies anymore then the current employer tax credit is, but it certainly is a system that isn't willing to upset that apple cart of bending government policy in a way to maintain the happiness of the private insurance market. Which this legislation carries the torch of as well.

This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 1:37 am
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:41 am to
McCain will support this bill because Graham's name is on it. I'm skeptical until I read more information on it.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 1:48 am to
I suspect that is why he is offering his initial support, but if he doesn't flip, it will just be because the bill is likely gonna die too fast for him to feel obligated to ever give a public response again.

My opinion of course, but it is not gonna be a bill anyone that was already skeptical, is suddenly gonna rally behind.
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
4786 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 2:39 am to
if you added Cruz's amendment to this, where you can buy private insurance off the exchanges that fit your needs, id be for it
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21856 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 4:30 am to
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it's laughable to suggest 24 million will lose their coverage.


The people that will lose their coverage are the young people who don't actually need health insurance. They will drop out as soon as they no longer have to pay the mandate tax
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
4962 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 6:37 am to
obama-scam must be completely and utterly repealed.

Do NOT leave one vestige of this fraud in place, otherwise it gonna come back and bite the GOP in the rear.

obama-scam was the ultimate poison-pill law designed to kill our currently health care delivery system and get square under the control of the Federal goobermint.

I will just briefly mention a few things:

Repeal the McCarron-Ferguson Act of 1945. This law gives the huge mega health complex many anti-trust exemptions.

Allow states to reestablish high-risk pools for those with preexisting conditions.

Also allow doctors, NPs, RN, health care faculties, etc generous tax incentives to treat those with pre-existing conditions and the poor.

Tort reform, gotta get these sleazy trail-lawyers off the backs of our medical providers.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 6:44 am to
Didn't read.

It's too late. We tried, McCain lied, we moved on.

He can go frick himself.
Posted by alatxtgr
The Nation of Texas
Member since Sep 2006
2282 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 7:16 am to
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Just get the f out of healthcare.

Totally agree... Go back to the States taking care of their own with their charity systems. Get the Federal Government out of health care. If the Fed's feel that they have to stick their noses into the health care system, do it fairly an just. Allocate the money on a per person to a state, not on expenses...
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