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Can someone give me the cliff note version of the Dakota pipeline?

Posted on 12/3/16 at 5:47 pm
Posted by KCMIZSEC
Member since Sep 2013
2199 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 5:47 pm
And what all the outrage is about?
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 5:48 pm to
Oil bad, profits evil, whaaaaaaaaaaa!
Posted by HeauxBeaux
Member since Mar 2008
5538 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 5:55 pm to
They're building it

People don't want it built

They're building it anyway
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
3754 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 6:01 pm to
saving the spotted owl or something
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260730 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 6:03 pm to
Government and oil company had hundreds of meetings, tribes were invited. They wanted 10's of millions of dollars, pipeline was moved.

Most natives aren't involved in the protest, it's mainly environmentalists who are trashing the land and committing violence.
Posted by Kirby_Smith_Champ
Houston, TX
Member since Jul 2012
5 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 6:05 pm to
Have the dots been connected to Buffett on this one yet?

I was talking to someone about this yesterday. They are gonna have highs of 3 degrees F this week. I suspect the protests will all but end...
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 6:28 pm to
And possibly the protests being funded by the current company transporting the oil.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
12952 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 6:30 pm to
There should be some natural selection once winter sets in the Dakotas.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56370 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 6:31 pm to
Army Corps of engineers did a survey and found that a pipeline would be far more ecologically sound as a transport mode - as has been proven over and over. Trucking is even more harmful, not to mention dangerous at this time of year.

Warren Buffet once again saw a threat to his railway transport businesses, so he whipped up another anti-pipeline protest. Most of the idiots you see on TV really are environmentalists, but the core consists of those paid by Buffet's interests. This is the case with almost every one of these situations.

The protestors are squatting on private land that the owner wants them off of, so kicking them out is well within the right of the authorities.

Whether the pipeline is on "sacred land" is very hard to determine, as anyone can say that something is sacred land without a clearly defined parameter. As stated, sacred or not, this particular tract is private property, so it's moot.

So:

A more ecologically sound mode of transport + Warren Buffet + stupid people + crunchy nativist drum circle philosophies = this huge pile of bullshite.

ETA: Here's a very good breakdown.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 6:35 pm
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

saving the spotted owl or something


Its about the water table, actually. I cant throw any stones on this. Its my industry. Shoot me.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

Its about the water table, actually.




How far below the water table will the pipeline be?

*Not that it matters, as the source water for the area is being moved 70 miles away from the pipeline*...but anyway, how far below the water table will the pipeline be?
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 6:42 pm
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 6:45 pm to
There is already a pipeline running through there and liberals are being shitheads. Again
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45814 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 6:53 pm to
I think almost all of the pipeline is complete except for this small portion. We were north central South Dakota pheasant hunting a couple of weeks ago and all the locals we talked with were pissed about the protest and supported the pipeline
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

How far below the water table will the pipeline be?

*Not that it matters, as the source water for the area is being moved 70 miles away from the pipeline*...but anyway, how far below the water table will the pipeline be?


I haven't really looked at the specs, yet. My work has been more east tx and ft collins as of late but i know thats what the people are afraid of. I actually dont think it matters so much. Precautions will be taken. Now the ideological concerns are arguable, but that's a larger conversation
Posted by KCMIZSEC
Member since Sep 2013
2199 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 7:06 pm to
Good rundown. Just what I was looking for. Thanks.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

I haven't really looked at the specs, yet.

Well, in your expert opinion, based on past experience, how deep would it have to be--in relation to the water table-- to be safe? How close to be dangerous?
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