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re: Can somebody explain to me how hunters love animals?

Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:35 am to
Posted by Tigerstudent08
Lakeview
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:35 am to
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They are smart enough to come into residential areas and destroy proprty and get mowed down by cars.

See if someone is killing them because they say they are a nuisance I can buy that. But to say they kill them cause they will starve to death doesn't quite pass the smell test.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:38 am to
Yo have lived a very much deprived life if you have only fished once. The camaraderie that is provided by friends and family out on the water is a very enjoyable manner of spending time in your life. Fresh fish staring back at you at the table after cooking it yourself is a good boost to your ego too.

ETA I spoke the other day about missing the joys of fishing with my father when he died, some of the things that occurred were just funny as hell to a child. Catching about five hundred pounds of blue crabs in a trawling net in search or shrimp was one such event. The net held crabs, tires, and army cot thrown into Caminada Bay during Betsy, sting rays, and exactly one big assed shrimp. There was a sign put up by the highway that said free crabs and the people came to relieve us of what couldn't be consumed at the camp.
This post was edited on 1/15/14 at 11:44 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:39 am to
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But to say they kill them cause they will starve to death doesn't quite pass the smell test.
I see, can I ask what your experience level is concerning this topic?
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:40 am to
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My sister lives in a gated development(a very big one) in Arkansas and the deer population spikes when hunting season starts as they jump the fences to avoid the hunters. Taking a walk after dark when that occurs the eyes of deer are like headlights in the woods and they are everywhere.
My parents have a lake house in a large gated community. Hunting is not allowed. Fish and Wildlife has to come in and trap the deer and relocate them to prevent overpopulation and disease.
Posted by Tigerstudent08
Lakeview
Member since Apr 2007
5776 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:44 am to
very minimal. I am in sales in the oilfield so every now and then I will go along with for a deer or duck hunt. Duck hunting is actually kinda fun but deer hunting is soooo boring.

FYI- I've shot my fair share of ducks but no deer. I haven't shot them out of any moral reason or anything like that. I don't mind killing them because I eat the meat. But I also don't go around saying I am killing them to help them.

Kill=Help

Please don't offer me any "help" if that's the case
This post was edited on 1/15/14 at 11:47 am
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:47 am to
They love them dead
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:53 am to
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Kill=Help

Please don't offer me any "help" if that's the case
So there are and never will be overpopulation issues in your opinion?
Posted by willthezombie
the graveyard
Member since Dec 2013
1546 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:59 am to
Hunters and sportsmen love animals and nature and we try to preserve it. Hunting helps keep animal populations in check and keep them from starving. Also you have to respect an animal (that 10 pt this year) that you battle everyday to see who can out smart who.

Plus they taste extremely good wrapped in bacon.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28894 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Kill=Help


Compare deer in open wild vs. overpopulated areas. More disease more starvation and more wrecks because deer are reckless in their pursuit of water and food.

I'm not saying if you haven't been around that environment you're not entitled to an opinion because we all are but it's fairly ignorant of the facts presented by Parks and Wildlife organizations around the country. To think that hunting doesn't make better environments is such.
Posted by Tigerstudent08
Lakeview
Member since Apr 2007
5776 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 12:01 pm to
There are plenty of issues that can arise from over population and there are plenty of environments that have scarce food supplies, but let's not pretend like that's the norm and act like we are throwing them a bone. We do it because its entertaining and the food they provide. If not, why would we be sitting in a tiny stand by ourselves freezing our arse off? This doesn't mean that you can't love animals and still eat them
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 12:03 pm to
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There are plenty of issues that can arise from over population and there are plenty of environments that have scarce food supplies, but let's not pretend like that's the norm and act like we are throwing them a bone
Well I don't consider a state managing the popultion of said species as throwing them a bone. It is in fact a smart and logical way to ensure a healthy balance and protect the environment.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260471 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 12:58 pm to
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But I also don't go around saying I am killing them to help them.

Kill=Help


Seriously? It doesn't take much intelligence to figure this one out. Maintaining a healthy balance is practical, and if animals are starving due to overpopulation, thinning them out helps keep the remaining ones healthy.

Would you rather live in a land with 1 million people that had enough resources and lived fullfilling lives, or would you rather live in a world that had 50 billion, and no one had enough resources to be healthy?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 1:08 pm to
But hunters enjoy hunting.

I can understand if it is a necessity to thin out an animal population.

But if you love the animals, how can one get enjoyment out of killing them?

Do hunters actually love the animals, or do they love hunting the animals?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 1:10 pm to
the worst thing God did to mammals and fish is making them delicious
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260471 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 1:10 pm to
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But hunters enjoy hunting.

I can understand if it is a necessity to thin out an animal population.

But if you love the animals, how can one get enjoyment out of killing them?


I dislike killing them, but like to hunt and eat them.

I don't know how to get from hunt to eat without the kill.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 1:11 pm to
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But hunters enjoy hunting.
So
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I can understand if it is a necessity to thin out an animal population.
It is.
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But if you love the animals, how can one get enjoyment out of killing them?
Love is prolly a strong word.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260471 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 1:12 pm to
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They love them dead


The overwhelming majority of the time, my hunts are conducted with a camera, not a firearm. I use a firearm or fishing rod to fill a freezer.
This post was edited on 1/15/14 at 1:14 pm
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 1:16 pm to
The development is almost totally woods so I don't think over population will be a problem for it. The front gate and the back gate are at least ten miles apart, it has five or six man made dams and reservoirs.
Posted by chadau79
Daphne, AL
Member since Sep 2009
3413 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 1:17 pm to
I do not like turkeys. I like donating money to the NWTF to help their habitat. I spend money all year long feeding them wheat and planting new habitat for them. I try to rid my property of predators to keep them safe. But, for some reason, every spring rolls around and I get MAD at them. My spare time in the spring is spent in the woods being mad at turkeys.
This post was edited on 1/15/14 at 2:10 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 1:23 pm to
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My spare time in the spring is spent in the woods being mad at turkeys.
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