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Cali DMV licensed 800,000 undocumented immigrants under 2-year-old law

Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:18 pm
Posted by FrenchToast
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:18 pm
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On the day that California officials implemented a controversial law that allows undocumented residents to obtain driver’s licenses, DMV offices throughout the state were packed with immigrants looking to take advantage of the opportunity.
Two years after the implementation of AB 60 on Jan. 1, 2015, an estimated 806,000 undocumented residents have received driver’s licenses, according to Department of Motor Vehicles statistics this month. About 14,000 of these licenses were issued in November alone, the DMV said.
The law has allowed undocumented residents to come out of the shadows and drive safely in their neighborhoods, according to Maricela Gutierrez, executive director of the immigration advocacy organization, SIREN.

“Many of them have been able to drive their kids to school and to run errands, when many times they were taking buses that would take them up to three hours to get from point A to point B,” she said. “It opened up new opportunities.”

One San Jose resident who applied for a license just a few days after AB 60 went into effect received his license in the mail shortly after.

“It’s a completely different feeling because you no longer have to worry about seeing a police car,” said the 46-year-old, who asked to be identified only by his first name, Ramon. “You’re much more at peace when you drive. You can drive long distances with your family — to Disneyland or to the Monterey Bay Aquarium — with confidence. You don’t live in fear.”

But as President-elect Donald Trump, who vowed an illegal immigration crackdown as a candidate, prepares to take office, the law is coming under renewed scrutiny.


How many of those regsitered to vote and voted in the presidential?
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23287 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:22 pm to
Well considering all you need is a license with your name and residence to vote added to the fact that getting a license in California automatically registers you to vote, I'd say the chances are pretty high there were a bunch of illegals that voted in the election. How many? That's hard to tell.
Posted by E12IC
Member since Jan 2014
419 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:23 pm to
How did all these people get ID's. I thought Dems said getting an ID is a heavy burden on minorties.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:24 pm to
do these people even have to take a test? What are the odds they know driving laws/rules?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35904 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:25 pm to
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Well considering all you need is a license with your name and residence to vote added to the fact that getting a license in California automatically registers you to vote, I'd say the chances are pretty high there were a bunch of illegals that voted in the election. How many? That's hard to tell.


Not hard to tell. Multiple 806K by the turn out percentage.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:25 pm to

Fruit doesn't pick itself. Good on the Mexicans for working!!!!6$$?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:26 pm to
Sweet. So we have the names and addresses of 800K illegals. Should be easy to find and deport them.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23287 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:27 pm to
They have something called a work visa. They should abide by the law. Them being here is a privilege, not a right.
Posted by FrenchToast
The French Kitchen
Member since Jan 2016
1810 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:28 pm to
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Critics also point to another state “motor-voter” law, AB 1461, that starting in 2017 will automatically register most licensed California drivers to vote, arguing it could lead to election fraud if non-citizens barred from voting in federal elections become registered. State officials said there are safeguards in the system to prevent undocumented licensees from being registered to vote.

The DMV said law enforcement agencies, including U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, can obtain driver’s license information — such as name, gender/description, address, date of birth and driver license number — through certain data-sharing systems. But the information doesn’t indicate their immigration status or whether they received licenses under AB60.

“The California Department of Motor Vehicles takes very seriously the protection of personal information for all license holders,” the DMV said in a statement Tuesday following concerns about personal information being released to authorities.

DMV officials also said “the President cannot unilaterally repeal AB 60 and AB 1461.”

California lawmakers have vowed to protect the rights of all immigrants, no matter their legal status.
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 5:38 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:39 pm to
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How did all these people get ID's. I thought Dems said getting an ID is a heavy burden on minorties.



It is fricking incredible how quickly that bullshite narrative falls apart
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:44 pm to
It isnt a heavy burden but lets be real and all cut the bs shall we? Conservatives push voter ids because it will potentially impair voting for groups that vote against them. Liberals are against the ids for the opposite reason.
On both sides it is completely political bra
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
3724 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:46 pm to
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Conservatives push voter ids because it will potentially impair voting for groups that vote against them.


No, they follow the rule of law because it keeps us safe and honest.

quote:

On both sides it is completely political bra


Tell that to Kate Steinle's parents.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:18 pm to
frick you're a dumbass
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:36 pm to
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Fruit doesn't pick itself. Good on the Mexicans for working!!!!6$$?


What are you trying to say?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:38 pm to
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Sweet. So we have the names and addresses of 800K illegals. Should be easy to find and deport them.


How do you do that when they destroy the evidence before Trump takes office ala NYC?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:41 pm to
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because it will potentially impair voting for groups that vote against them.


How so?
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3431 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:43 pm to
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Fruit doesn't pick itself. Good on the Mexicans for working!!!!6$$?



You are anti- american worker and pro- big business and big agriculture
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3431 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:47 pm to
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It isnt a heavy burden but lets be real and all cut the bs shall we? Conservatives push voter ids because it will potentially impair voting for groups that vote against them. Liberals are against the ids for the opposite reason.
On both sides it is completely political bra


This is not true. Conservatives want laws to be followed. Liberals only want rules that help them increase power. It doesn't require a heavy burden to tip the scales sometimes, and liberals politicize everything to a point that it is part of who they are, and will do anything and everything to preserve their party's power.
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
10315 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 7:20 pm to
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It isnt a heavy burden but lets be real and all cut the bs shall we? Conservatives push voter ids because it will potentially impair voting for groups that vote against them. Liberals are against the ids for the opposite reason. On both sides it is completely political b


No, its about their legality. Handing out licenses to folks who are illegal just so you can get them registered to vote is a scam. Let's be real.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78914 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 7:30 pm to
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They have something called a work visa


Then they would be documented immigrants.
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