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CA may not require bail
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:22 pm
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Here they go again! In keeping with their increased focus on the rights of criminals vs. the suffering of victims, CA may no longer require bail, may release accused offenders based on their 'risk to public safety,' and will set bail based on the defendant's income. Is there any doubt whatsoever on whose side the crazies in CA stand? When is that vote for secession set?
Here they go again! In keeping with their increased focus on the rights of criminals vs. the suffering of victims, CA may no longer require bail, may release accused offenders based on their 'risk to public safety,' and will set bail based on the defendant's income. Is there any doubt whatsoever on whose side the crazies in CA stand? When is that vote for secession set?
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:23 pm to conservativewifeymom
States rights?
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:24 pm to conservativewifeymom
Let CA (not me) 
fall into the Ocean after all the normal people are warned to leave.
fall into the Ocean after all the normal people are warned to leave.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:24 pm to conservativewifeymom
To be fair, bail should always be focused on
If released.
The rest, not so much.
quote:
'risk to public safety
If released.
The rest, not so much.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:24 pm to crewdepoo
Equal protection?
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:25 pm to crewdepoo
What about victims' rights?!?! And yes, states' rights. I hope they take their right to secede and get the heck out of the Union. Quickly! And permanently!
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:25 pm to conservativewifeymom
There's pilot programs all across the country that show bail reform actually increases court appearances and lower recidivism rates.
There's several logarithms that take data from defendants and recommends release or bail based on 10-20 factors.
Many people can't afford bail and then take bad deals just to get out. It's really a major issue.
Why are you against bail reform?
There's several logarithms that take data from defendants and recommends release or bail based on 10-20 factors.
Many people can't afford bail and then take bad deals just to get out. It's really a major issue.
Why are you against bail reform?
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:26 pm to cajunangelle
I've been saying that for years!
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:28 pm to KosmoCramer
Because I'm FOR victims' rights and against criminals. If they can't afford bail, they shouldn't commit crimes. No bail, they can sit their a-- in jail until it's time for a trial. Simple!
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:28 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
Many people can't afford bail and then take bad deals just to get out. It's really a major issue.
I'd agree with this. Or often they give up their rights to fight bs money grab property siezures through asset forfeiture. This is not what our founders intended.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:28 pm to crewdepoo
A sliding scale for bail based on economic income is not equal protection.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:29 pm to conservativewifeymom
quote:
they can't afford bail, they shouldn't commit crimes
I've never seen you post here, so I'll try and be nice here...
Do you think people are innocent until proven guilty in this country? By proven guilty I mean either pleading guilty or convicted.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:30 pm to conservativewifeymom
I'm not talking about murders and rapists.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:31 pm to NYNolaguy1
This has nothing to do with the original post or the content of the article. If you'll actually read the article it MAY just strike you that CA thinks nothing of the victims and is all about what the poor little criminals can afford, etc. And yes, I post here when there's something worth posting about! Hi!
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:32 pm to conservativewifeymom
quote:
What about victims' rights?!?!
Bail is a tool to ensure people show up for court. NOTHING MORE. it should never be used as a punitive measure, so "victim's rights" are irrelevant, especially since the accused is innocent UNTIL proven guilty
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:33 pm to conservativewifeymom
Not everybody feels the need to keep immigrants out 
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:33 pm to conservativewifeymom
quote:
This has nothing to do with the original post or the content of the article. If you'll actually read the article it MAY just strike you that CA thinks nothing of the victims and is all about what the poor little criminals can afford, etc. And yes, I post here when there's something worth posting about! Hi!
Hi!
Ok... But you said if they can't pay for bail, they shouldn't commit crimes.
Do you think that by simply being arrested they are guilty of anything?
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:35 pm to conservativewifeymom
Um, bail is pre-trial. They're not criminals until after they've been proven guilty in court in the American system...
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:35 pm to conservativewifeymom
Do you think bail rates deter people from committing crime?
Posted on 4/3/17 at 8:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
It should be based off the minimum wage of the state. A free gov shouldnt be able to set million dollar bails.
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